How much do you want to bet that this guy has been on the internet calling people snowflakes unironically?
This is literally what qualifies as "shoving it down our throats" when conservatives say that LGBT+ folks can live how they want but not shove it down everybody's throats. That's my personal experience with conservative relatives and locals, at least.
Being reminded that certain "other" people exist without being hunted down is all it takes to set them off.
So while the lawsuit is a stupid waste of resources, the basic dickhead at the center of it is probably genuinely motivated to pursue it.
Sounds like a you problem
So can all his coworkers sue them because they have to look at this bigoted piece of shit every day?
Sounds like a right snowflake
I saw another video today of some hag saying "who you have sex with is no one's business" but the flag is about equal representation and how gay marriage was illegal and they were denied rights. It used to be way worse than just being denied rights too-- it used to be dangerous to be out.
These people just can't face the fact that we do come from a darker world and the wounds are still fresh. They just can't think critically and inwardly it seems to hurt them. You don't have to feel shame but anyone can recognize this is exercising a right they had been denied for a long, long time
Has he considered reading the Bible and following the teachings of Jesus Christ? It might help him understand what Christianity is supposed to be about.
Do you really think they are reading their book?
Also which one? They'll pick the one that most fits what they want.
If they are reading anything but the new testament then it is just a history lesson.
Which translation, which interpretation? It's hard to say the New Testament is a single work with just one commonly understood message.
Would be fun to see this lawsuit succeeding.
The Satanic Temple would have a field day suing everything christian by this precedent.
A satanist could even argue it causes them physical harm to be subjected to "holy" imagery against their will, if the scriptures are to be believed.
Sounds like he is very, VERY gay.
That has to be it, right?
If seeing a piece of cloth is so triggering, then maybe that's an indicator of a much more deep-rooted problem.
The "Christian men" who protest gay rights the loudest are usually the ones who wind up in the headlines when they get caught soliciting male prostitutes at rest areas.
I know I'm probably bucking the hive mind here, but I would actually support legislation that government owned building can fly only city, state, and country flags. I'm completely in on making sure that government policies are inclusive and protective of those needing them, but flags just seem performative. In fact, they could be counter productive; flying them "in support" while policies do not.
Which cities, states and countries can a building fly? Only their own? Could a federal building raise a flag for another nation in solidarity, even if support for said nation is polarizing? Flags are performative, but knowing what is allowed to be performed can be a good indicator for marginalized groups to know where they might be okay living, even if policies are quite there yet.
In my world, no. A government building flys the flags associated with it. While it's easy to be on the side of a federal building flying the flag of Ukraine, or one state flying the flag of another going through a tragic event, supporting that would also allow government buildings to fly the Israeli flag, or the confederate flag or a MAGA flag. You don't think that confederate sympathizers in the south would claim to be marginalized and the confederate flag flying at the Mississippi statehouse would make them feel welcome? It's a knife that cuts both ways.
I want marginalized people to feel welcome in their communities, but I don't believe the flagpole of a government building is where to do it. The floor of the government building is.
Agreed. Plus a legal precedent in favor of pride flags, could cut the other way. On principle, I don't want to see hateful sentiment yield a legal victory. In practice, disallowing this kind of expression in government facilities would/should keep MAGA flags and other nonsense far from the same flagpoles. Or at the very least, it could be argued so in a second court case.
Yeah. I generally don't have an objection to pride flags but I could definitely see somebody stretching the same arguments to have a Confederate or MAGA flag (or just Trump's face as he's so fond of putting it on fucking everything)
I come to Lemmus for exchanges like this. Well reasoned, level headed, and consequences considered. Imagine if we could get conversations like this to take place in those government buildings- sure would be swell.
Thank you. Be the change you want to see in the world, right?
I'm suing my employer because it rained today and I saw a rainbow.
disgusting.
A few of my muslim students said that they couldn't draw a rainbow in art class, "because in our religion this is a bad thing".
I asked them "but are not all of nature's wonders the work of Allah?" While I watched the gears rolling behind their eyes I told them to ask their imams "who makes the rainbows in the sky?". And that they may return their given assignments after having received the answer.
I kind of have to take the plaintiff's side. The government shouldn't be flying pride flags any more than they should be installing Nativity scenes. This isn't about agreeing or disagreeing with the opinion being expressed, but about whether the government should be expressing an opinion at all.
And really all he asked for was to work remotely for the month the flags were up, not to have them removed. I think that actually might fall within the "reasonable accommodation" laws he's invoking here.
Why are gay people an opinion?
We are not an opinion, but I don't think that's really a fair summary of my position anyway.
This isn't about agreeing or disagreeing with the opinion being expressed, but about whether the government should be expressing an opinion at all.
How is a pride flag an opinion is a pretty fair question to this statement. You compare it to an opinion, so it must be comparable right?
All flags are an expression of opinion. Even the pride flag has different versions that include or exclude different sub-cultures and allies.
Haha what? One is a celebrating diversity and the other is religion.
Neither are a governmental function. I think that's the operative comparison to be made here.
The main issue would be proving seeing a pride flag “forces” him to “celebrate, recognize, and solemnize” anything LGBTQIA+. By that standard, a government employee wearing a cross necklace would be grounds for any non-Christian to sue for the same reasons. Insanely slippery slope.
This is a case where it's the government that's wearing the proverbial cross necklace, not another employee.
Gotta WFH lunch room is not kosher, there's pork in the lunch room, etc..
Fucking snowflakes
Everyone has so many theories about this guy’s motivations. I think it’s just capitalism manifest. This guy sees a way to make a buck litigating. Welcome to America.
He's definitely a repressed gay then
Stop blaming Christian fundamentalist fascism on gay people.
I see confederate flags round here all the time and I don't feel forced to celebrate the confederacy.. idiot.
Eric Batman
I'M NOT GAY.
Christians like this are SO addicted to seeing themselves as victims.
There is a certain strain of Christianity that must see itself as the underdog in a cosmic war of good and evil. Everything fits into that overarching narrative.
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