Why did they put a semicolon in the middle of this sentence?
To bother you
Should have snuck an em dash in there if you really want to rile people up
I'm glad I finished school before the AI era—I put an em dash and a semicolon in the same sentence at least twice in a given paper; this would get flagged every flipping time nowadays.
Lol same... I used to have the alt code for em dash memorized (back when I used Windows)
Same. As an extremely verbose and descriptive writer, I take umbrage at the whole em dash debacle. Can't a man even punctuate anymore!?
Engagement bait baybee
Wow. They did it.
I mean, while there's certainly a bias towards the victor, there's definitely some histories that have slipped through from people who were very much not the victors. Josephus comes to mind, even if he did so by surrendering to the victors; Thucydides and Athens lost the Peloponnesian War; for a more recent example, the American South's narrative on the Civil War.
for a more recent example, the American South’s narrative on the Civil War.
Bold of you to think that they would agree that it's over.
I always loved his joke about 9/11. It went something like, “ I saw the towers fall and immediately went down to Ground Zero to look for my brother. I spent hours looking and searching for him, but I never found him then I remembered that he moved to Colorado three years ago.”
I realize he's talking about "history is written by the victors" but I thought of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_of_all_possible_worlds
If this is the best of all possible worlds then God must be pretty fucking terrible at making worlds.
I go with Schopenhauer:
Arthur Schopenhauer argued, contrary to Leibniz, that our world must be the worst of all possible worlds, because if it were only a little worse, it could not continue to exist.
We appear to be working on proving Schopenhauer's theory.
How great it would be to realize that our god is the equivalent of a grade school child making finger painting and crayon drawing versions of worlds in the timeout chair and this was just the one we got stuck with.
I've read webcomics with something close to that premise.
I couldn't get past this...

Is that Leibniz?
Such a fancy boy
Edit: didn't click the link before posting. Dunno if I should be impressed or concerned that I recognized this dude lol.
He might look like a dandy, and might have been way too weirdly Christian, but the man was a fucking genius. Still think his notation style for calculus was better than Newton's
Wai? Dude looks like he plays drums in a Spinal Tap tribute band. What could be better than that?
Its object was to solve the problem of evil, that is, to reconcile the existence of evil and suffering in the world with the existence of a perfectly good, all-powerfuland all-knowing God, who would seem required to prevent it
I'm reminded of HAL from 2001 for some reason. Maybe because HAL was given two conflicting goals and went insane trying to reconcile them with each other, rather than simply discarding the goal that was obviously just some nonsense.
You would need to be extremely racist to think the good guys won the Opium War or the wars of European conquest in the Americas or Africa, and even centuries of propaganda spin don't change that. And there are cases like the Siege of Constantinople in the Fourth Crusade that was rightfully vilified even at the time.
You would have to lack a certain kind of thinking to take this quote that was posted in the memes community seriously
Are you familiar with the concept of sarcasm? Or contextual reading?
Indeed.
Also just naive to think that there are "good guys" and "bad guys". When you dig into the nuance of any conflict its almost always complicated.
Did you guys just completely miss the joke or something? I mean it's not subtle or anything..
The joke refers to the addage that history is written by the victor, but that just isn't true.
Exactly. That is part of the joke.
Norm understands that it's not true, he pokes fun at it because most people do tend to take it as fact. He ridiculizes how silly that thought is.
One Piece, of all things, phrased this concept better
"Pirates are evil? The Marines are righteous? These terms have always changed throughout the course of history! Kids who have never seen peace and kids who have never seen war have different values! Those who stand at the top determine what's wrong and what's right! This very place is neutral ground! Justice will prevail, you say? But of course it will! Whoever wins this war becomes justice!"

How many Americans in this thread have every read or seen anything about the Vietnam war written by a Vietnamese person ?
I've searched and could find no books, no movies, no tv shows written or produced by a Vietnamese person available in English.
Why is that ? I thought history was written by the victors.
Movies all with english subs or dubs
"When the tenth month comes" "the abandoned field" "the little girl of Hanoi"
Books available in many languages including English.
"The sorrow of war" "Last night I dreamed of peace" "Mourning headband for Hue" "nothing ever dies"
Just to name a few. Ive seen 1 and read 2. Nobody won that war and it never should have happened.
Idk maybe you need a new search engine I used DDG and found this list
https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/186705.Books_on_Vietnam_War_from_Vietnamese_s_perspective
Also I'm sure many are aware of the Mai Lai Massacre and other events and the overall war itself is widely known as a "loss" for the US military.
And most everyone in the world knows about Agent Orange and the fallout from using it on those people that still today affects them.
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