Israeli air strike hits Gaza hospital sheltering thousands of war-displaced : worldnews

[-] Veltoss@lemmy.world 113 points 2 years ago

Gotta love how they told people to go south then bombed them there, as well as hospitals. And they can just say every target, no matter how many civilians die, was a "Hamas target" and it's "Hamas' responsibility to protect civilians" while they indiscriminately bomb these civilians.

Crazy that more people aren't speaking up against this.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 50 points 2 years ago

They told people to evacuate and then bombed the evacuation routes.

Israeli spokespersons keep saying they're fighting Nazis, but I only see Nazis on their side of this.

[-] Cockmaster6000@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago

Israel taking a page out of Putin's playbook

[-] xuxebiko@kbin.social 43 points 2 years ago

Once Palestinians starteing evacuating North Gaza, Israel bombed the humanitarian corridor that they'd declared as safe.

Russia did the same to Ukrainians last year and EU & NATO & UN supported Ukraine. Now they support Israel.

[-] dependencyInjection@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 years ago

I swear to God, I can’t name another country that takes such little criticism ever in the MSM other than Israel.

A fucking hospital ffs.

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[-] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

For many it's the sunk cost fallacy.

They've rhetorically, unreservedly supported Israel for half a century, and they will not be reexamining those intransigent beliefs today, thank you very much.

"The Doctor: How much blood will spill until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning -- sit down and talk! Listen to me, listen. I just -- I just want you to think. Do you know what thinking is? It's just a fancy word for changing your mind.

Bonnie: I will not change my mind.

The Doctor: Then you will die stupid."

-Steven Moffat, excerpt from Doctor Who

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[-] LollerCorleone@kbin.social 95 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

If it was any other West Asian country doing this, the entire West would be denouncing them and taking action. But because its Israel doing it, this is fine.

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 50 points 2 years ago

Because there are consequences of you go against the grain. It's all about money...always. Palestinians have little to no money and influence.

[-] thoro@lemmy.ml 30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's sad that this type of comment can be and is often spun as "antisemitism"

[-] CoderKat@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago

Agreed. It's also frustrating that the labeling of anything anti-Zionist as anti-Semitism just gives actual anti-Semites the opportunity to claim their actual anti-Semitism is anything but.

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I will never fault someone for standing up for their people. In fact, one has to admire the fact that this person put their money (and reputation) where their mouth is. We strongly disagree on the matter, but antisemitism has nothing to do with it.

A question, for me, is where is the same pressure from other players? Where are the mega rich Arabs and Muslims pulling their funding because somebody didn't put out a pro-Palestine message. Step up!

[-] xuxebiko@kbin.social 36 points 2 years ago

the toxic sludge of racism + Islamophobia = support and empowerment for Israel to ethnically cleanse Palestine of Palestinians.

[-] glimse@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago

The other, possibly larger, part of it is the fear of being labeled antisemitic. Antisemitism is a huge problem all over the world but Jews aren't to blame for what's going on - Zionist are.

[-] alquicksilver@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Yep. And yet Israel is giving the rest of the world more excuses for antisemitism. Who is even winning this "war," other than Bibi and his toadies?

[-] glimse@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

No one. Jews everywhere will take a reputation hit from the public at large because Bibi pretends to speak for them.

I grew up in a Jewish neighborhood. I worked at a Jewish family business. I have lots of Jewish friends. And I've yet to meet a Jew who likes the guy...even the ones who support an Israeli state.

[-] alquicksilver@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Agreed. I'm Jewish and have never supported Israel, but my parents do and even they hate him.

[-] glimse@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

I think I support the idea of Israel because they've historically been a target of genocide but I recognize that it's not my land being given away to make it. It's the perpetual expansion if Israel that bothers me.

Zionists originally wanted a homeland and they got it. Now, Zionists want an empire. I'm pretty sure Palestine won't exist after this conflict. You give a mouse a cookie...

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[-] pyromaster55@lemmy.world 54 points 2 years ago

What Hamas did was horrible, a terrorist attack and atrocity for sure, but we're watching an actual genocide and half of the world is cheering it on. I feel like I'm talking crazy pills. What the fuck is wrong with people and what can we do to stop this?!?

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

What else was Hamas supposed to do? In your opinion, what options do they have?

[-] novibe@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 years ago

They should’ve peacefully marched and protested!

…. Like they did in 2018 and got brutally shot down by the dozens of thousands, with thousands of dead and more than 10 times that maimed for life with their knees destroyed, intentionally, by IDF soldiers as they laughed? When they marched peacefully towards the walls and barriers, making their concerns heard in protests and absolutely nothing got better and no one cared?

In any case, we all know everything we’ve ever achieved was done through peaceful protest. Like the civil rights movement! MLK made some speeches and the white bourgeoisie felt bad and changed all the laws.

Don’t look into how MLK was murdered and there was mass protest and revolt with plenty of violence before any changes ever happened…

[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This is a bullshit excuse for violence against innocent bystanders. You can (and Israel supporters DO) apply this exact same argument to Israel: "And what exactly SHOULD they do about HAMAS, Mr. Smarty-pants, just let terrorists run pel mel, unpunished?"

I don't have an affirmative answer; if I did I'd be happy to collect my Nobel peace prize. What I do have is the understanding that "but you just don't understand, it's justified when WE do it" is a giant crock of shit, and it's the lie that every oppressor through the ages (including Israel) has told themselves.

Edit: Other countries need to step up their game. It's plain to see what's happening in Palestine, even with the internet and electricity blackouts imposed there, so one can only imagine how much worse it really is. The US and others need to step up and denounce this shit, tell Israel to go to the bargaining table for real or they're off the teat for good.

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[-] Crikeste@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago

Don’t you see! You can challenge your oppressors with peace and forgiveness!

Dorky ass motherfuckers who wouldn’t last a single day under the Israeli foot.

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[-] stmcld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 2 years ago

US President Joe Biden will once again emphasise Israel's “right and duty” to defend itself.

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[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 34 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Some nerd reported the post suggesting that maybe it was a Palestinian air strike. LMAO

[-] ApexHunter@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Israel is claiming that some rockets launched by Hamas towards Israel went off course and hit the hospital.

I remember Russia staging a "Ukrainian missle attack", but they were so bad at it that the damage was on the side of buildings facing away from Ukraine. Should be pretty easy to check that here too...

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 11 points 2 years ago

The rockets Hamas fires can barely punch a hole in a wall, and this explosion basically leveled the whole hospital. It's just a ridiculous claim.

[-] Apollo@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago

It blew up a car park the hospital is still operating lol

[-] Happenchance@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

The scale of boom the IDF is dropping is an order of magnitude larger than Hamas missiles.

It's insane to think that one (or even more than one) missile could destroy a hospital.

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[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 26 points 2 years ago

The hospitals are packed with children. Holy shit.

[-] sarcasticsunrise@lemm.ee 22 points 2 years ago

Hasan called this yesterday. Of course he was right

[-] zerfuffle@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago

https://www.episcopalnewsservice.org/2023/10/16/anglican-hospital-among-facilities-struggling-to-respond-to-growing-humanitarian-crisis-in-gaza/

In the case of the IDF, ~~lightning strikes~~ bombs strike the same place twice

[-] wildeaboutoskar@beehaw.org 15 points 2 years ago

I don't understand a lot about this conflict but surely there can be no justification for this. Those poor people

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[-] SpicaNucifera@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago

Turns out it was the IJ, and the IDF has miles of receipts. The hosptial itself wasnt even hit.

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