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[-] Bwaz@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

"Lifetime" -- a.k.a. until Plex folds

[-] Mwa@thelemmy.club 1 points 3 hours ago

thats more expensive then a AAA game.

[-] Eh_I@lemmy.world 9 points 18 hours ago

Sure, can I bundle it winRAR subscription?

[-] PerfectDark@lemmy.world 11 points 21 hours ago
[-] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 60 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's still hilarious to me that Plex, a project forked from the XBMC (now Kodi) free open-source app for organizing and playing one's own entirely legally obtained video files, is a big streaming business thing that charges people money.

It's like finding a tree in the forest that gives out infinite free apples, and then setting up an apple-selling table right next to it stocked with apples you obviously got from that tree.

[-] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 17 hours ago

This happens all the time in FOSS

Someone comes in, contributes a bit, then forks, then closes it off once they realize there’s a path to monetization.

Plex is a particularly egregious example: the initial author forked xbmc to make a mac port. This led to a crazy amount of popularity very fast and they saw the path to monetization. They soon after created plex server separate from the client and went to the crazy step of rewriting everything GPL so they could fully close source.

This is legally fine but ethically fucked; they had a derivative app that technically no longer shared code with kodi but there was the fact that design cues, data structures, etc were mostly inherited. Plex wouldn’t exist without kodi. And that’s totally fine, derivative works should be allowed and encouraged. But what’s fucked is that they made serious efforts to close source and give nothing back to the community that they were built from. Code? Nothing. When they got 40 million in VC? nothing.

See also a bunch of players in 3d printing, notably Bambu at the moment. But they’ll keep getting away with it thanks to a combination of governments that are like “money is more important than fairness or progress” and idiotic consumers that are like “oh I have to spend 30 seconds longer figuring something out? Ugh fuck you im gonna buy what some YouTuber was paid $400 to recommend”

[-] canthangmightstain@lemmy.today 9 points 23 hours ago

No… it’s like picking up those apples, shipping them across the country, and then charging customers a delivery fee. Which is perfectly reasonable because time and fuel cost money.

Plex helps you (and others) stream from your library pretty brainlessly. Sure there are other options, but all of them are more complicated.

[-] Landless2029@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago

This is it. People have always paid for convenience.

Just look at console vs PC gaming.

Steamdeck made Linux gaming mainstream because it's brainless. Backed by proton.

But console has a vice grip on some communities / groups due to a long standing "plug and play" sales pitch. Now they're stuck because "my friends are there."

My brother-in-law is a sysadmin and stuck on Playstation due to his friends. Doesn't even own a gaming PC because "he doesn't have the time to tinker."

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Technically, it’s like facilitating the shipping of those apples, but leaving the customer to ship.

Plex server->client streams don’t go through Plex’s servers themselves, but directly from server to clients. P2P. AFAIK the only exception is when something goes wrong and it falls back to a Plex-hosted server as an intermediary, which should be rare.

That’s still a pretty useful service though. Getting P2P reliable and easy isn’t trivial, and is one reason why open source projects haven’t really supplanted it yet.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 day ago

I've never used any of the features they've added after they allowed me to host my library of ripped optical media ~2013-2014.

[-] BlackVenom@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago

We need a support group for the whiners.

It's been dirt cheap and you still don't have to do it.

At the end of the day the core of the software is free. They still have to support and develop the clients and services.... Go shit on emby or the other one for how unfriendly they are to deal with.

[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

Garbage take which amounts to bootlicking. To each their own though.

[-] piranhaphish@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago

This is almost certainly a ploy to get an influx of buyers before the cutoff of July.

They want to round up all the people that they think were considering a lifetime pass, but were holding out.

I guarantee you when July comes they're going to reduce the cost to somewhere less than $750 and much closer to the current price due to "we listen to our customers" when really it was the plan all along.

They're using the Decoy Effect and FOMO.

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[-] o_O@lemmy.today 6 points 23 hours ago

Plexamp is the reason I'm still using Plex. I'll fully transition to Jellyfin as soon Finamp (or another music app) incorporates robust caching to handle internet deadspots.

[-] clav64@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

Jellyfin: free Cloudflared: free

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago

Jellyfin behind Cloudflared is probably the best move ATM.

It's not specifically against TOS, they do provide you some modest protection against infiltration.

combine that with running it from a container with RO access to your media and you have a damn nice home solution.

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[-] normalentrance@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 day ago

Sigh. I still enjoy my Plex pass that I bought for < $100 but this is another sign to bail on them. I don't particularly like them trying to further monetize my collection.

I do like the ease of sharing with friends and it does generally just work. But this is bad.

[-] sunbeam60@feddit.uk 5 points 23 hours ago

The rate of change in their eco system certainly does not justify the price they’re charging. Still, an IPO looms and business gotta business, so here we are. Ready for those stock options to tank and the boat to sink.

[-] Dagnet@lemmy.world 335 points 1 day ago

my lifetime pass for jellyfin cost me $0, pretty good value

[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 81 points 1 day ago

I didn't get into self-hosting until recently, and people recommended Jellyfin, so I don't even know what I'm missing with Plex, if anything. It feels like Jellyfin does everything I need.

[-] hperrin@lemmy.ca 109 points 1 day ago

You’re missing getting to pay for it. Imagine how good it would feel to see $750 less in your bank account.

[-] tempest@lemmy.ca 62 points 1 day ago

I mean Plex definitely has a value add. Around here people will scoff but Plex is far easier to work with for non technical users.

If you shared your library externally Plex was definitely easier it's just that they have started to extract value from that which does suck.

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[-] silentjohn@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 day ago

Wait, ya'll are paying for Plex??

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[-] osanna@lemmy.vg 62 points 1 day ago

almost a fucking grand for a media server that you host yourself, and only really rely on their login servers for. Can anyone else say "enshittification"?

[-] kogasa@programming.dev 39 points 1 day ago

They provide the apps, metadata servers, and relay service. It's a lifetime pass. IMO that's worth the price it used to be, $70 or whatever. The new price is just absurd, they want you to pay periodically for life because people spend more that way.

[-] auzy1@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

Do they provide the metadata services though? Pretty sure that's still handled by imdb and such

Been looking at jelly fin. I have a lifetime with Plex but it feels like they're headed for bankruptcy anyway.

And seems the same. Only problem is that the docker server keeps crashing on my Synology unfortunately

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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 29 points 1 day ago

Jellyfin Lifetime Pass continues to be better value.

[-] dudesss@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

As always, donate to the FOSS alternatives instead.

In the case of Youtube Premium, donate to Ad Blockers instead.

[-] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

To be clear, you still need your own HW and electricity, right?

[-] sturmblast@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

What a joke. Plex isnt worth paying for

Yep, definitely heading for bankruptcy.

[-] SirMaple__@lemmy.ca 86 points 1 day ago

Couldn't pay me to use that software lol

Used Kodi and now using Jellyfin.

[-] gdtf@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 day ago

As if there weren't enough reasons to use jellyfin already.

[-] Fmstrat@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Hmm, perhaps I should sell my lifetime pass. I won't, but I should. (Switched to Jellyfin long ago)

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[-] melfie@lemmy.zip 39 points 1 day ago

I think software subscriptions are a scam, but I don’t mind buying a perpetual license that is only good up to a certain version with additional fees for newer versions. It’s also fair to charge a recurring fee for something that has recurring hosting costs like a VPN, cloud storage, etc.

If they weren’t such dipshits, the “lifetime pass” should have been a perpetual license you can keep using as long as you want, but charge an optional fee for newer versions if you want to upgrade and get more features. They should also have offered a hosted service to make your instance available to others and charge a monthly fee for that. I think people would’ve been fine with all that.

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