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[-] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 103 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Bus lanes and trams are a symbol of “communism” and car is a sign of “freedom” until you realize that the ultimate freedom is choosing to walk, bike, take transit, or drive to your destination.

his employer won’t reimburse him for mileage once he fully transitions into his new role next month

2018 Chevy Silverado, which he uses to carry equipment and supplies for the hotels, this year.

Well, that’s a fucking problem. Don’t take a job in which you are expected to use a personal vehicle for work purposes. Work provided vehicle and submit receipts for gasoline. Insurance company won’t like it. You won’t like how fast your car goes through tires and then dies. Etc.

[-] Stern@lemmy.world 45 points 4 weeks ago

I feel like the legality of not reimbursing him for using his personal vehicle for work purposes is fairly dubious though I'd be lying if I said I knew the specifics of the laws there.

[-] SolacefromSilence@fedia.io 50 points 4 weeks ago

Employer: taps head They're a contractor and I don't pay then enough to live.

[-] Stern@lemmy.world 8 points 4 weeks ago

I think in his case he's salary as a regional manager. Contractor is a whole other thing.

[-] Duranie@leminal.space 4 points 4 weeks ago

I can only see so much of the article so I don't know where he's based, but I know in some places the reimbursement is mandatory. Per IRS mileage reimbursement is currently $0.725/mile. Working in hospice I drive to patients homes with my supplies full time, which cuts me a check for about $300-450 mo, which more than covers gas.

I actually just switched to a hybrid so since reimbursement stays the same, it'll start paying for the car a well.

[-] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 14 points 4 weeks ago

Given the cost of fuel, a bus pass for me (if I still had to commute, I work from home now) for a month is now just over $800/mo.

6 years ago, that was $375/mo.

I don't think the issue is limited to car drivers, I suspect more than a few folks who took public transit with me are looking at a pretty impactful monthly cost.

[-] youcantreadthis@quokk.au 12 points 4 weeks ago

Trains. Overhead wire. Green energy. Build it now or suffer later.

[-] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 7 points 4 weeks ago

I agree.

That does nothing to address the current (rapidly rising) commuting costs happening now, though.

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[-] eestileib 4 points 4 weeks ago

We had electric buses with overhead wires in São Paulo in the 80s.

The US had electric interurban railroads in the Rockies a hundred years ago.

It can happen very fast.

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[-] eestileib 4 points 4 weeks ago

Yeah. I feel very lucky to have moved to a place where I have an electric train and an electric bus system powered by hydroelectric.

Oh wait, climate change means our glacial flow is 12% of the typical rate and the province is announcing a datacenter construction plan?

Well fuck me too I guess.

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[-] jtrek@startrek.website 12 points 4 weeks ago

Bus lanes and trams are a symbol of “communism” and car is a sign of “freedom”

This is basically it.

I saw a post the other day that argued to the conservative mind there must be an underclass. There must be poor people whose lives suck. If you try to make things good for everyone, you're going against nature and will just make things bad for everyone.

Thus good public transit is bad. If different classes of people all mingle then it's like mixing your food up on the plate and that's just wrong!

They really are like children

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[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I still don't get truck culture.

I grew up kinda out in the sticks, fair number of religious nuts and racists.

You know what they'd say about trucks, in the late 90s?

If you need a truck, like, really actually need a truck, you get it and use it only for actually hauling shit, or towing something.

Then you have a sedan or similar for everything else.

Like, ... the yokels of 20/30 years ago would all be laughing at the yokels of today.

I don't get how these people can be this aggresively stupid, its literally an insult to their 'heritage', fucked up as that heritage may or may not be.

[-] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 weeks ago

They would! I remember my gear head uncles scoffing and laughing at the extended cab in the 90s.

They would absolutley laugh at these yuppies. Now some of them are the yuppies.

its wild.

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Yep I remember that too, specifically

Extended cab? Ridiculous. Like 'hwaaaak ptooie' ridiculous.

Whatchu gonna do with that?

Take your wife down to the feed and seed, ask her for help liftin bags into the bed?

Ahhahahahah!

Swear to god I heard nearly exactly that at some point.

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[-] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 5 points 4 weeks ago

It's masculine insecurity. Our culture doesn't produce men who are secure in their gender identity so they have to constantly proofs it to themselves and others all the time. Once you see it, you realize it's the root cause from everything from truck nuts to looksmaxxing

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[-] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 weeks ago

EXACTLY. GIVE A CHOICE!!

I myself am a car person but still. Give us a choice. I would be ALL FOR banning cars in our downtown area and just having to bike walk or bus to get there from farther away. Cars ruin cities.

We need them in rural. But thats far fewer people.

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 63 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

It is going to be very funny (read: horrifying) watching the American economy entirely grind to a halt, due to our car centric design of everything just completely imploding as ICE vehicle commuting itself becomes a luxury.

We're so fucking delusional about this.

Cars are unaffordable.

Gas is unaffordable.

Public transit basically doesn't exist outside of some major cities, but not even close to all.

If it costs more to go to work and be able to go to work, than you are paid for working, it is imminently rational to not go to work.

Just most people in general will completely lose their minds as this gets worse.

What will win?

Just get an EV or Hybrid or Motorcycle or E Bike...

Or...

No, cuz that's gay/stupid/'unreasonable'... ?

[-] Soulg@ani.social 22 points 4 weeks ago

Or just can't afford to buy a new vehicle, ironically enough. I would love little more than to get rid of my car for an EV right now but I was barely staying afloat before gas prices started to surge, now it's just even more precarious.

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I guess you could put it like this:

How do we improve traffic?

Raise gas prices, dramatically.

[-] Soulg@ani.social 11 points 4 weeks ago

Anybody who cannot just stop driving will tell you the many many ways why that's a terrible idea without like 15 other things done first

[-] Soup@lemmy.world 14 points 4 weeks ago

Worry not, 15 year financing will save North America!

[-] iocase@lemmy.zip 14 points 4 weeks ago

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[-] parson0@startrek.website 50 points 4 weeks ago

I'm patiently waiting to see what else it takes for Americans to overthrow this government.

From his pedophile ring to unlawful executive orders, wars, tariffs.. Trump keeps breaking the law and acts outside their beloved constitution. All with consent from the majority in both ruling parties, either by direct support (R) or silence (D).

[-] eestileib 5 points 4 weeks ago

It's already happened, the coup is done.

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[-] BigTuffAl@lemmy.zip 34 points 4 weeks ago

So now you're telling me that investing in a culture that denies basic physical reality might result in a situation where reality is inconvenient?

[-] Smookey4444@anarchist.nexus 25 points 4 weeks ago

America is just too car centric

[-] binux@sh.itjust.works 24 points 4 weeks ago

Hi, I'm Trevor Moore. Did you know that it's illegal to say "I want to kill the President of the United States of America"?

[-] Timecircleline@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 weeks ago

RIP Trevor Moore, one of the funniest (and whitest) kids u know.

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[-] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 18 points 4 weeks ago

No, not commuting. Commuting in cars.

[-] jaybone@lemmy.zip 12 points 4 weeks ago

They could take public transit and spend three hours one way commuting to their eight hour shift.

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[-] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 17 points 4 weeks ago

If the average American is working mostly to pay rent and commuting costs, they're less likely to look for a new job, or to try to improve conditions at their current job.

But hey. At least you know you're FREE.

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[-] CarpalTunnelButt@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 weeks ago

The rich are loving it because they have more reason to fire people.

[-] manxu@piefed.social 9 points 4 weeks ago

I mean, commuting was unaffordable for a lot of American workers beforehand, too. I knew a guy that worked at a grocery store, had his car destroyed by an uninsured driver, and when he had a night shift, there was no public transportation. He had to shell out more in Uber and taxi to get to and from work than he made on his shift.

It's just a lot more, I guess. At least, EVs will start selling again, right?

[-] veganpizza69@lemmy.vg 8 points 3 weeks ago

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/unsustainable

not capable of being prolonged or continued : not sustainable

[-] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The new job entails thousands of miles of driving each month to properties in Ohio, Indiana and Illinois [...] and his employer won’t reimburse him for mileage.

No fucking comment.

[-] drcabbage@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 weeks ago

I like how everyone forgets EVs exist.

[-] jtrek@startrek.website 20 points 4 weeks ago

EVs mitigate one tiny slice of the problems caused by car culture.

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 weeks ago

Carbon emissions are only a tiny problem? What world do you live in?

[-] jtrek@startrek.website 8 points 4 weeks ago
  • They still put crap in the environment from the tires
  • much of the energy powering them isn't green
  • car culture still creates horrible spaces to live in
  • crashes are still a common, ruinous, event
  • doesn't solve DUI
  • still is expensive to own, maintain, insure
  • car culture promotes isolated, sedentary life, which is bad for physical and mental health

Just off the top of my head. If you swapped all the gas cars for electric cars, you still have all those problems.

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[-] SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip 4 points 4 weeks ago

Tailpipe CO~2~ emissions are indeed only a fraction of the problem with ICE cars. EVs still cause CO~2~ emissions from production, maintenance, and especially infrastructure, in addition to being just as dangerous, noisy, and socially disruptive as an ICE car.

Further, if they are cheaper to operate, the Jevons Paradox means that we'll end up using more total energy for EVs than we currently do for ICE vehicles, with all of the knock-on effects of pollution and environmental destruction wrought by automobile-oriented land use. That environmental destruction also drives climate change, and the Antheopocene mass extinction currently in progress.

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