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[-] iforgotmyinstance@lemmy.world 93 points 1 year ago

Treat people like animals for decades, it's no surprise how they act. Israel is at fault for both sides deaths.

[-] qdJzXuisAndVQb2@lemm.ee 42 points 1 year ago

No. Humans are more than their base instincts. Hamas should not have murdered civilians. Israel should not be abusing Gazans. Both are true at the same time.

[-] Yondoza@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 year ago

"It is hard to remember that people can be both victim and perpetrator at the same time."

We try often try to assign one group as the good guys and the other as the bad guys. It doesn't work like that.

[-] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

God especially on the internet, can't have any nuance about "well you're right, but that doesn't mean personal responsibility just ceases to exist" it's just "You're as extreme as me or you're on the other side"

[-] SasquatchBanana@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Palestine isn't Hamas. Hamas doesn't represent all of Palestine

[-] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

It does however represent the group that killed 1000+ people, mostly civilians, with no clear goal beyond their stated desire for Jewish extinction and radical islamic Sharia law to be spread as far as possible.

Palestine in general being a victim doesn't automatically make Hamas the good guys or their specific actions acceptable.

[-] SasquatchBanana@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

That doesn't mean you get to glass Palestine. If people really cared about dead babies and a death toll then they would be against Israel doing this.

[-] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I didn't say it did, though I suppose that goes for what I said as well.

[-] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 3 points 1 year ago

Right, but more than one thing can be true at once.

[-] undef@feddit.de 12 points 1 year ago

Get yourself a lesson in History and don't just repeat the old antisemitic bullshit story.

[-] bojaber@lemmy.ml 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The human cost of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict (deaths/injuries) documented by the UN:

2008:
Palestine ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ธ : 3,202
Israel ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ : 853

2009:
Palestine ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ธ : 7,460
Israel ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ : 123

2010:
Palestine ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ธ : 1,659
Israel ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ : 185

2011:
Palestine ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ธ : 2,260
Israel ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ : 136

2012:
Palestine ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ธ : 4,936
Israel ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ : 578

2013:
Palestine ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ธ : 4,031
Israel ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ : 157

2014 :
Palestine ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ธ : 19,860
Israel ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ : 2,796

2015 :
Palestine ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ธ : 14,813
Israel ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ : 339

2016:
Palestine ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ธ : 3,572
Israel ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ : 222

2017:
Palestine ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ธ : 8,526
Israel ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ : 174

2018:
Palestine ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ธ : 31,558
Israel ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ : 130

2019:
Palestine ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ธ : 15,628
Israel ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ : 133

2020:
Palestine ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ธ : 2,781
Israel ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ : 61

Source: Gรฉopolia

[-] undef@feddit.de 12 points 1 year ago

Are these numbers civilian or combatant's deaths/injuries? What was the background? Who attacked, who defended itself?

You know, numbers without context are nothing more than numbers.

As I said already, get some lessons in History.

KTHXBYE

[-] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago

Can you provide any sources to assist in this history lesson you want people to have?

[-] Sabre363@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

Seems like a fair and balanced fight

[-] iforgotmyinstance@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Jfc the irony in your comment

[-] cows_are_underrated@feddit.de 21 points 1 year ago

I personally don't like this "one site bad" thing(in this conflict at least). Of course, in terms of killed persons Israel is the bad guy, but also the things the Hamas did are pretty fucked up. I personally came to the conclusion that both sides are bad, Israel is allowed to defense itself against this brutality but shouldn't take the opportunity to absolutely fuck Palestine again(what it sadly does). I'm not for Israel or Palestine. I'm for the civilists and human rights.

[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago

You have to look at it in terms of power dynamics though. Israel is a uS backed settler colonial apartheid regime that propped up Hamas because they would rather face Islamic fundamentalists then socialist opposition. They're either directly or indirectly responsible for all of the violence.

Only one side could hypothetically end the violence tomorrow.

[-] Facebones@reddthat.com 15 points 1 year ago

No, no, it's heroic when Isreal does it

Cause reasons

[-] bfg9k@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago
[-] Maiznieks@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I'm not going to sit on a platform that has this low bar for dumb "memes" and world views with that high upvote number.

[-] akhial@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago
  • Leave home
  • Go Palestine
  • "Balfour declaration bitches"
  • Kick people out of their homes
  • People mad
  • "Oh no help meeereee"

Israel isn'treal.

[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah this meme doesn't work for Hamas.... the person being shot isn't a child.

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