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[-] ceenote@lemmy.world 147 points 1 week ago

Not a Christian, but I used to be one, and I've never heard of anyone fitting the criteria for the antichrist better than Donald Trump

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 70 points 1 week ago
[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.cafe 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

There it is. If you hadn't posted it, I would have.

[-] Malyca@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago
[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Yep. Not even Christian and that's some shit....

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[-] Zephorah@discuss.online 23 points 1 week ago

Right? I had a grandparent heavy into that part of Christianity before they died. The guys fits. As does the bad weather. I’m a bit surprised the Christian following hasn’t gone there. Granted, there may not be one of any significance given how bot run the internet is these days.

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2302.00381v1

There’s a fun Forbes article voicing concern about wasting ad efforts on bots. If any relief occurs it will be because of this. https://www.forbes.com/sites/emmawoollacott/2024/04/16/yes-the-bots-really-are-taking-over-the-internet/

If you ask AI they list the number at 20% not 50%.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

I’m a bit surprised the Christian following hasn’t gone there.

Isn't a big part of it how the Antichrist deceives people into following him who ought to know better?

[-] Zephorah@discuss.online 5 points 1 week ago

That is the story, yes.

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[-] jtrek@startrek.website 15 points 1 week ago

. I’m a bit surprised the Christian following hasn’t gone there.

Many Christians are theologically incompetent. They don't know their scripture. They just like feeling good.

[-] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago

But didn't JD Vance say the pope needs to understand theology more before he starts preaching about what Trump is or isn't doing? /s

Fuck America is so lost.

[-] db2@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Don't forget there's a fair number of evangelicals who want all this to happen and more so their imaginary friend can come back to life and they themselves can live forever. They actually believe that.

[-] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

I'm not a religious man but I am a man of faith. I've explained to many people the biggest of the problems to me is accepting that someone can absolve me of all my sins. If I go to hell I go to hell but I own what I've done. That is between me and God and no person regardless of who they are has the right to absolve me of my sins.

It's that fervent lack of accountability it instills in otherwise weak people that really sours me.

Oh, and the general inconsistencies in the rules. Because everyone fails to acknowledge that God may be real but religion is a concept made and evolved by man and man is inherently flawed.

Long story short, my relationship is with God. Not the church. Not the religion. Not Jesus. With whatever I chose to believe is above is all.

Yes I know it's not really responding to what you said but Jesus Christ I have met and dated real Christians and they are so not like these dollartree Christians you have in America.

[-] FrChazzz@lemmus.org 3 points 1 week ago

As a priest in the Episcopal Church I can say that offering absolution for sins is not about the priest doing that work, but instead declaring that absolution has already happened. If anything, it's a reminder. The Roman Catholic theology might be different on this, though.

I'm the sort of person that benefits from an actual voice telling me things like "your sins are forgiven." I grew up Baptist/Evangelical and was told I did not need a priest or minister to forgive me of my sins, that Jesus was the only one who could do that. Sure. But that was so abstract. Once I first sat in an Episcopal parish and had a priest say "Almighty God have mercy on you and forgive you all your sins through our Lord Jesus Christ..." was powerful. It took the idea of my forgiveness out of the abstract. Like, I knew it was not the priest forgiving me, but was someone openly reminding me that my sins had been forgiven.

I'm now a universalist and I believe that everyone's sins are already forgiven (when Jesus says "father forgive them, they know not what they do" on the cross pretty much covers it), but that we fail to accept that forgiveness and so rob ourselves of the kind of liberation that comes from that knowledge. I need the church to remind me, on a regular basis, that I've been forgiven because it's easy for me to slip into a pattern of beating myself up for my failures and short-comings. But once I remember I'm forgiven by God I feel the grace that empowers me to try to be better.

[-] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

My boss said it best. "My faith requires that I ignore everything I learned. I grew up believing in science but to follow my faith I must believe in the Bible."

This was his response to me asking him how he thought carbon dating was fake.

Im not religious and I talk circles around him about the Bible endlessly. He's so stubborn about it that I can basically shut him up about anything but simple quoting the Bible at him and then spinning and s twisting it to fit anything I want.

I'll even point out to him that I'm doing it and how it's manipulative. But he just says if you can make the argument from the Bible then no matter what it must be true.

He's explained he's so scared of going to hell he's willing to "unlearn anything" if it means he will be saved

Its baffling.

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[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.cafe 3 points 1 week ago

I’m a bit surprised the Christian following hasn’t gone there.

They are really Christians.

[-] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago

There is no god and no antichrist. Humanity has seen worse. They've all been human.

[-] CTDummy@aussie.zone 14 points 1 week ago

Given they stated they’re a former Christian not sure your remark will be a revelation to them. More pointing out the hypocrisy of the same crowd trying to use religion as the reason in every conversation (e.g. sexuality and gender) constantly forget the basics and TL:DR rules of Christianity. Like it isn’t even that far down the list, it’s rule two.

There may have been worse, though many of them were likely not in charge of the self proclaimed “leader of the free world”, not many have exhibited overtly anti-Christ like qualities. I get what you’re saying but it comes off as almost dismissive of gestures broadly at geopolitical landscape.

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[-] crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 74 points 1 week ago

Lol, not even really gold, like the rest of his crap:

the president fails to mention the fact that the figure is merely wrapped in gold leaf.

The shiny livery was added to the bronze statue by the sculptor, who told the Daily Beast that it was the easiest mark-up of his life. “They loved the idea, of course. It’s like pitching ice water to a man dying of thirst. It was not a hard sell,” Alan Cottrill said.

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 44 points 1 week ago

Give it a few months and the gold leaf is flaking off, and they start fixing it with spray paint. It's all so poetic.

[-] Mvlad88@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Holy shit, your comment made me realize something. Is Trump spraying himself orange because he thinks it makes him look golden?

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[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.cafe 39 points 1 week ago

The artist literally upsold them for no other reason than money, and then bragged about gouging them over making it shiny. There was also something about him holding the statue until they paid in full, before delivering it. He knows what's up with these losers.

[-] Mohamed@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 week ago

Such a waste. Bronze looks so much better than that gold, especially when it rusts.

[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

I wonder how this will patina with piss. I can't be the only one that really wants to piss on it. I'm sure that will become a thing.

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[-] thefluffiest@feddit.nl 47 points 1 week ago

Then it was a golden calf. Now it’s a golden pig

[-] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 week ago

The USA is probably the nation furthest from christian values at this moment. Well, aside from the genocide and pedophilia. They got that shit on LOCK.

[-] Flower@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

It's the place where they complain to the pastor he should stop spouting woke bs and just read from the bible.

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.cafe 22 points 1 week ago

How can these supposedly knowledgeable Christian "leaders" do this without thinking about Moses destroying the Golden Calf, or even the 10 Commandments' warnings against having no Gods before me, and no graven images, etc.?

I suppose if you're okay with all the other commandments being broken, these ones aren't really so bad. It's not like Killing or Stealing, and they do that shit every day.

And as long as we're on the subject, the 10 Commandments say NOTHING about pedophilia, so GAME ON!

[-] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 week ago

It is also a characteristic of the Anti-Christ being on earth I believe

[-] Hackworth@piefed.ca 15 points 1 week ago

Jesus fucking christ

[-] SarahValentine 14 points 1 week ago
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[-] belunos@lemmus.org 13 points 1 week ago

I think this was posted before the pastor at the dedication respond to this this. He posted several paragraphs explaining why this isn't false idolatry, and it kind of came down to 'trust me bro'

[-] Impractical_Island@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Trust me bro, this flesh alchemy gig pays out after four or five years. Sure, at first, every chick runs away from you when you approach them offering the giblets of a jammed duckling, but once you smoke a few pounds of Benadryl, you start pulling it off, in the same way just whipping it out will land you a date 1/10 times, assuming you are fast or can afford the out-of-court settlements for the 3/10 times they threaten to call the cops. But this gets you the really freaky bitches that would also be the ideal mother of your child who will teach them the occult and have them transcend physicality entirely by middle school. I highly recommend, and I don't even miss my one toe. It's like childhood all over again, but with less bleeding on Christmas, at least in my case.

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[-] ZMoney@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

So I always thought the whole End Times eschatology was just bullshit to scare people and convince them that their religion had it all figured out. But now I've come to realize the metaphorical power of the stories themselves.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

The lack of awareness and intelligence never ceases to cofound me. Following the anti-christ, the person they want to start armageddon, is a one-way ticket to hell for these clowns. And they’re all for it. Yet they think they’re the good guys?

[-] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

No it's a one way ticket to heaven. They get to go to heaven when everything ends. Thats why they want things to end.

Ending is rewarded to them. Its a pretty classic example of the problem with positive enforcement. If misapplied it causes more problems

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[-] klu9@piefed.social 10 points 1 week ago

"God?! God's a radical left lunatic, so soft on crime, so soft. What did God do to stop Iran getting nukes? Nothing! Not like me."

[-] fonix232@fedia.io 8 points 1 week ago

Well, not really the oldest, that would be "hey guys, see that tree? don't eat its fruit. anything else you can eat, just not THAT one. Kay?"

but it's definitely up there in being one of the most well known rules.

[-] Clutter@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

They have become the satire...

[-] Zephorah@discuss.online 5 points 1 week ago

What are the odds it’s stolen Fort Knox gold?

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

0%. However that's only because we haven't used Fort Knox to store gold for a few decades now.

[-] fonix232@fedia.io 11 points 1 week ago

Knowing Trump? It's probably styrofoam spray painted gold.

[-] beansbeansbeans@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Evangelicals aren't Christians and are incapable of critical thought or reflection.

[-] sol6_vi@lemmy.makearmy.io 3 points 1 week ago
[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.cafe 3 points 1 week ago
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