Call me a conspiracy theorist, but it really feels like the separation thing is mostly a guise so that the US can step in and "save" the struggling and destitute Alberta.

Carney needs to start a loud public investigation into foreign money. Expose these jerks.

The thing that really gets me is, Alberta doesn't like how hard it is to build a pipeline that would run into other provinces, and how in the world is being a separate country supposed to help with that? Do they think building across an international border will be easier than building across an interprovincial one?

... Cameron Davies is the leader of the Republican Party of Alberta

Jfc. :/

So is like Alberta the Mississippi of Canada?

“Honestly, I hate this country right now. If I could leave, I would.”

Darling, If I could throw you out, I would.

Alberta screwed themselves when they rejected national energy program that would have cost them some provincial control in exchange for building Canadian energy self sufficiency. They would have pipelines crisscrossing Canada and refineries to boot to get 'their' oil to. However they were hoodwinked by US corporate interest into rejecting the NEP and they have been taken advantage of by those same corporate interests ever since. Along with that the Alberta government has spend every waking moment blaming Ottawa. No AB sales tax to even out cyclical O&G revenues? Ottawa's fault, somehow. Not enough environmental deposits to clean up after the O&G company has taken all the profits it wants and offshored them? Ottawa's fault. No refineries? US extraction companies want to refine in US and close Canadian sites, Ottawa's fault. Petro Canada. Short sightedly sold by Conservatives. Was Ottawa's fault but at the behest of Alberta.

I can imagine a mass exodus too. I live here. I'd rather be homeless and jobless made destitute with a mortgage on a made worthless house than American.

I wonder if they included the cost of armed forces, border and customs agencies, foreign embassies, aviation and environmental regulatory agencies, national pension systems, and federal service staffing in their calculations? Or are they assuming the two behemoths landlocking them would just... let them be...? Both Canada and the US could decimate Alberta economically and I can see the current US administrarion doing it purposefully with the intention of annexing them.

Sometimes I wonder if separatists really just want Alberta to be a part of the US since we all know that's how this would play out in the end.

...and for Canada

That's why the shitheads are funding it

So, if Alberta reaches the promised land of glorious independence or whatever, how exactly do they plan on trading outside their borders without being taxed to oblivion by one of two much larger bordering nations any time we try to get resources in or out?

trade Alberta for Washington, Oregon, and California

What non Albertans need to understand is that "the separatists" in Alberta are two different groups. There are a significant number of Albertans who are upset with the way Alberta has been milked as a cash cow for decades without the corresponding political power like the populous provinces out east. Mostly they want to express their displeasure and if that means some sabre rattling and threats of separation thats fine. It works for Quebec and they just want to follow the same playbook. They would be the mild separatists who may or may not see the value in having Alberta be an independent state within Canada, but they are still a minority.

Then there are the radical separatists who believe that Alberta should separate and join the US. That is a VERY small group of people. If anything Albertans are fiercely independent, with an "I can do it myself" attitude and the last thing the vast majority wants is to jump out of a stable democracy into the shit show that exists down south.

So when you say 'separatists' you have to be clear who you are talking about. MOST of us want a more fair deal for Alberta but we're not pro US and particularly not pro Trump.

I think, if you don't like where you live, you should move, but you can't take your land with you. I also think, if you don't care about separation but push the agenda just to entangle yourself with powerful cabals above and beyond your reach, should be a special kind of treason.

I could care less if a bunch of rednecks want to leave Canada, the problem is it immediately becomes part of the US. They are not saying that part loudly enough.

You would think that after the fiasco of Brexit Albertans would know better. Albertans would still be subject to their own governments damaging economic policies even if they could divorce from the federal ones. Most of their economic problems are self inflicted. That will only get worse. It is clear that their Premier and cabinet and advisors are already on the payroll of American billionaires. How any Albertan thinks that will make life or income better for them is astonishing. They harken back to some good ol days that never existed, while falling for Koch brothers (or whomever) marketing their takeover. They wouldn't become the next Alaska, they would become the next Puerto Rico, if that lucky. And like Quebec before them, they don't understand that the current provincial borders won't be the ones that would exist if they managed to secede.
Personally I'd be willing to work on a trade group: all the Albertans (and the few from BC, Sask, & Man) who want to secede could be swapped for an equal number of Americans who wanted to come North.