It is working as expected. Herzl was advocating for displacing the local people to create the state

Israel was an insane ethnostate movement long before they even gained independence. There's a reason why an overwhelming majority of former colonial states criticized Israel's existence during its very inception.

Had the Zionist movement never taken off, Mandatory Palestine would probably have just become a regular old state like Lebanon or Jordan, Lebanon even has a pretty hefty Christian population right after Muslims, yet you don't see them in some constant genocidal warfare campaign against each other.

Even weirder, Judaism itself was against the idea of forming a Jewish state without a Messiah for thousands of years, but at some point the radical branch became the overwhelming majority. Orthodox Jews are completely outnumbered by their Zionist counterparts which have transformed Judaism into a complete ethnic superiority cult akin to the Aryan superiority of the Nazis. You have to be born a Jew, you can't just join because you want to (unless you dedicate your entire life into it, and still with caveats).

You'll see thousands of comments like "Anti-Israel is not Antisemitism", but at some point you need to address the elephant in the room. The current mainstream "Judaism" is very much an ethnic supremacy group by design. You can't effectively criticize Israel without pointing out that its actions are overwhelmingly supported by their citizens because of their religion. Everything they do in their eyes is completely justified because they view everyone not in their ethnic group as subhuman.

This "what went wrong" line is liberal Zionists trying to launder the reputation of the colony.

Israel was founded on ethnic cleansing and atrocities like the Deir Yassin massacre. Zionists literally spelled out the need to "transfer" the indigenous population of Palestine in the early 20th century.

Zionists could rely on western media, policy makers search engine rankings and moderators to gatekeep and control the narrative and image of their colony. The difference now is that social media reveals everything directly to people.

I think the "mistake" started with the formation of Israel. I can understand the founding of their state after WWII, and their desire for a place where they can live without persecution. But, the location was a huge mistake if the goal was "peace".

Dropping them in the middle of their Holy Land? Automatic war for as long as they are there. Now, many are under the impression that they really are "God's Chosen People" and all of their desired "Holy Land" righteously belongs to them.

I think what is happening today was the desired outcome of Israel's foundation. USA and UK were perfectly fine with the Jews and Muslims fighting to the death, no matter who "wins", whatever is left will be all the easier for them (Christians incidentally) to control.

personally, I am opposed to Christians, Jews, and Muslims, to me there are no "good guys" to be found in the "Holy Land".

ETA Israel is a nuclear power now, remember that when you propose "solutions".

Zionism was a White Jewish Supremacist ideology from the very start and Israel was a White Jewish Supremacist and Colonialist project from the very start.

It didn't become so, it was always so and always meant to be so, the only thing that changed was the feeling of impunity to push-back from Western nations as, over time, Israel invested a lot abroad into capturing Politics and the Press, into Kompromat gattering Honeypots such as the one headed by Epstein, and into in Propaganda, especially in Anglo-Saxon nations, thus capturing the political classes there and shifting Western public opinion in favor of Israel. As that feeling of impunity increased, so did they more freely, openly and violently practiced their ethno-Fascist (same variant of Fascism as the Nazis) ultra-racist ideology against those they very openly called "vermin" - Muslims in general, especially Palestinians.

They have and always have had, as they themselves say, "Western Values", specifically late 19th century white colonialist values and early 20th century white supremacist ones.

PS: And if anybody has any doubt on the White part of their supremacist ideology, just look up the treatment of Black Jews from Ethiopia by the state of Israel, which included amongst other things forced sterilization.

Israel went wrong before it began. There is no way of displacing a population to create an ethnonationalist colony in a way that could be called "right".

It was a fascist ideology from its inception. We do you mean what went wrong with it?

This was an interesting read.

Especially his speculation that lack of a clear constitution (Basic Law was adopted as late as 1994 and is not a full-fledged constitution) and lack of clear borders contributed to Israel's fall into the current state.

Too generous US "security assistance" certainly helped. If you can solve a problem with bombing without worrying about getting bombed, you may start thinking of war as a normal thing.

Failure to contain the populist extreme right is another stumbling block. If there had been no Netanyahu (and his corruption scandals, and the court cases awaiting him domestically, filed a considerable time before the ones awaiting abroad), things might be different.

Ultimately, I would say: Israel failed to install brakes, and failed to contain its greed for power and land. It had too much cooperation and still has too much cooperation.

I don't know if there's a reasonable way out.

Israeli and Holocaust historian Omer Bartov is ~~a POWERFUL Scholar!~~ ~~Kowledgeable about Jewish history!~~ ANTI SEMETIC!

-The BBC!