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What went wrong in Israel? A genocide scholar examines ‘what Zionism became’
(www.theguardian.com)
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How about we give the Palestinians their homeland back, and israel can be remade in america, since so many of the settlers have american passports, if we're giving away any random country's land to capitulate to this genocidal state?
Delusional. Israel is not going anywhere. They're a nuclear power, they're a military power, they have a massive economy, they have 10 million people, and they can enforce their sovereignty. You can't be taken seriously if you unironically think that Israel can be destroyed or that's even a good idea (the current population there will just form another state that will be Israel 2.0).
Reality has shifted, and fixating on what should've been will cost you the opportunity to get the best version of what you could get. The reality on the ground right now is that Israel is the sovereign country of the region, and the far right are trying to quickly erase the remnants left of what could be a Palestinian state. If that happens, and we're quickly heading in that direction, then it's over. There's no conversation to be had anymore. However, we're not there yet, and so it's a lot more pragmatic and realistic to try hold on to what is left and use that as foundation for establishing an actual Palestinian state.
Your plan is Aesop's Fable, The Mice in Council. See https://aesopsfables.org/F184_The-Mice-in-Council.html
So you agree that the state of israel is a murderous one, and your solution is to give them the land of the people they murder with impugnity and celebrate the deaths of with champagne?
Read my proposal. Egypt would own the West Bank enlarged by land equivalent to the Gaza Strip, which would be given to Israel.
I understand your proposal, but wholeheartedly reject it at its premise.
It involves giving land that is historically Palestinian, to countries that are not Palestine.
But there is no choice. Israel doesn't want a Palestinian state.