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submitted 11 months ago by master5o1@lemmy.nz to c/newzealand@lemmy.nz

Will Chris win?

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[-] SamC@lemmy.nz 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Looks very unlikely there will be any other result besides National/ACT majority. Without having to worry about other coalition partners, this will probably be our most right-wing government of the MMP era. A lot of the National caucus are pretty right-wing at heart (rather than Labour, where a lot of them are pretty centrist at heart). So ACT will probably get more wins out of the coalition agreement than you might expect. NACT should be able to keep the government running smoothly as it was under Key, meaning they will be odds on to win a second and probably third term.

Which means cost of living, inequality and environment/climate issues are all set to get substantially worse.

[-] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Woo fucking hoo.

Gotta love that for some reason a bunch of people have voted against their best interests. Think it's time to reevaluate giving people decisions about their lives.

It does not end well.

[-] Xcf456@lemmy.nz 18 points 11 months ago

Cool, we get to watch an national/act government tonight, a no vote in Australia overnight and a genocide tomorrow

[-] zout@kbin.social 7 points 11 months ago

Don't forget the Polish elections tomorrow! It has all the drama of a modern election!

[-] KhanumBallZ@lemmy.nz 11 points 11 months ago

Wait for the special votes. Back in 1999 - The Greens won 7 extra seats from special votes alone.

  • A special voter
[-] Munkisquisher@lemmy.nz 5 points 11 months ago

they have historically done very well from overseas votes who don't have to pay tax here

[-] themusicman@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago
[-] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 3 points 11 months ago

That's a bitter take.

Like a whiny spoiled child who doesn't get their way.

[-] Rangelus@lemmy.nz 11 points 11 months ago
[-] SamC@lemmy.nz 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

No party in the MMP era outside Labour/National had ever won more than 1 general electorate seat (i.e. besides the Maori seats) before this election. Now it looks like Act will win 2 and Greens will win 3... that seems like a significant moment.

[-] z2k_@lemmy.nz 8 points 11 months ago

Funnily enough there is probably a chance Chris loses

[-] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago
[-] Fizz@lemmy.nz 5 points 11 months ago

Its seems like a lot of area seats were lost because left wing votes were split between labour and greens which allowed national to snag it.

[-] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Yeah, FPP for the electorate vote is kinda bullshit. Ranked preference would be way fairer

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[-] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 3 points 11 months ago

I was about to try and point out that a party vote for greens is actually a party vote for a greens+labour coalition.

Then realised that you're referring to electorate votes.

Derp.

[-] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 5 points 11 months ago

Wow it sucks that TOP didn't do better; but what sucks even more is that NZ Loyal got 1.15%; the crazys were out in force this year.

[-] TagMeInSkipIGotThis@lemmy.nz 3 points 11 months ago

So going on how things changed as voters were counted, it would appear that the early voting broke more for Nat / Act, and then the day of voting broke for Lab / G. NZF & TPM stayed relatively consistent throughout the night. This makes sense, blue-collar working people are somewhat more likely to vote Labour than National, and are less likely to have time to get to one of the fewer advance voting posts, than the typically white-collar / retired voters who are somewhat more likely to vote for the right.

The vote totals have now tightened up considerably on whether National can form a government with just Act; such that I am interested to know how many overseas / special votes there might be, and if any of them have been counted yet. If there's enough of them, and they tipped more Labour/Green than National then it might be enough to pull another vote from the right to the left, and given Parliament has an overhang this term Luxon would need to pick up the phone to someone to get an outright majority, at least on confidence & supply.

Another big talking point for me is that one in every twenty voters this election has no representation in Parliament at all due to the threshold requirements for minor parties.

[-] cloventt@lemmy.nz 2 points 11 months ago

Yeah that last point is fascinating.

[-] SamC@lemmy.nz 3 points 11 months ago

Hmm, there does seem to be a reasonably strong break towards Labour in the later counted votes. It could mean National end up with as low as 38% (especially after specials). If TPM win 5 seats, there'd be 122 MPs with overhang. That could mean National/Act will fall just short of a majority and require support from NZF.

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