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Looks very unlikely there will be any other result besides National/ACT majority. Without having to worry about other coalition partners, this will probably be our most right-wing government of the MMP era. A lot of the National caucus are pretty right-wing at heart (rather than Labour, where a lot of them are pretty centrist at heart). So ACT will probably get more wins out of the coalition agreement than you might expect. NACT should be able to keep the government running smoothly as it was under Key, meaning they will be odds on to win a second and probably third term.
Which means cost of living, inequality and environment/climate issues are all set to get substantially worse.
It was about that, but Labour were terrible at convincing the NZ public that they were better than National on those issues.
Labour have done a horrendous job. They deserve this. But it will Royaly fuck the poor.
Not looking forward to the next 3 years.
Rolling back environmental policies and landlord tax will be pretty bad for all of us. I don't think strength is anything we require. Nobody is worried of an armed New Zealand.
Business in my opinion. My very very controversial opinion. Business is a cancer. It's the worst thing to happen to humanity since money was invented.
Business looks to squeeze everything to profit the few. Maybe stop looking to greed and start getting the basics. Housing food security.
You can rape pillage and destroy the planet for profit. Won't help.yhe majority though.
But that's just my incorrect opinion
Hard disagree. The ethics is bound by how much they can get away. Banks are constantly getting fined for breaching their own rules. Big multi conglomerates run on how much they can get away with. Looking at America's deficit of a trillion. No way to pay it back. Money is worthless. Fed can print more at any point and banks can magic it out of nowhere.
We have no sat over Exxon we have no say over how most multi billion dollars operate. We can't even push back against planet killing policies.
You are naive to think the public have much power. We are given the illusion of democracy but a two party system that can change policies on a whim, with zero accountability.
No country is holding up their population. They don't care. That is the issue. The closer we get to annihilation the more they won't even pretend about the pure creed.
Yes and no. We can decide to use other means but that doesn't change their power to lobby our government and create pressure on food and medicine and military.
They aren't just fuel. They own a magnitude of companies and the means of productivity. They are our infrastructure.
Our GDP is tourism agriculture and probably building of some sort.
All require a heavy dose of Fossil fuels. Fertilizer fuel and building supplies.
Cats are a very small part of it.
I suspect nothing about what National offered was what did it, other than the fact they were not Labour. I fully believe that the majority of people vote without knowing what policies they are voting for.
We get the government we deserve.
I found that too. Any political conversation I had this cycle were basically: "Winston for the shit stir" or "Lifelong (insert party) voter". Nobody I spoke to really knew any policy.
I've been mentioning the cool Act policies in passing to people I talk with. No one knew that they want to remove all building standards, repeal the act that sets our carbon reduction targets, or allow employers to call everyone contractors to get around employee protections and so they don't have to pay annual/sick leave, etc. I'll be watching the coalition negotiations with interest.
Woo fucking hoo.
Gotta love that for some reason a bunch of people have voted against their best interests. Think it's time to reevaluate giving people decisions about their lives.
It does not end well.
Take the edge of in what way ? Pretty short sighted if a couple months helps but then national policies kick in and things get markable worse. But who knows aye
Which is probably why we are in this situation. We don't look to the future. Gotta start thinking big picture. Planets fucked. Need some drastic changes or this is humanities end.
But I get yah
Unfortunately I'm eligible to vote( resident not citizen) but I would vote green.
Labour or green are an attack on national. Only way to fight national is to push up labour.
Two party systems are a big issue.
You don't have to be a citizen to vote in NZ. Permanent resident (or resident visa) is enough. So long as you're entitled to live here indefinetly (and have lived here at least 12 months), you can vote.
I checked and my visa level doesn't allow me. I think mine is spousal. But we looked it up and I didn't fit criteria. But I am permanent ?
Interesting, the "am I eligible to vote" things just say you are if you've been here 12 months and are entitled to stay indefinitely.
I guess one key question is, on a spousal visa, if you split from your spouse are you still entitled to stay here indefinitely? If not that may be why you can't vote. I couldn't find any information specifically on if you can vote on a spouse visa.
Been here 3 years and have a spousal indefinite visa but ird says ineligible. Might be wrong but not sure.
Im not actually sure on that. I'm guessing of we split I would need to reapply for a visa under a different rule. I would assume that's why
Yeah, if you can't keep your visa on your own, that makes sense I guess.
Any policies in particular?
I can't remember but I feel they had some pretty insane ideas. Environmental maybe
Yeah they all seem really sensible. I'm sure there was something that put me off them.
Maybe that was it.