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Bodycam video shows Illinois cop shooting unarmed 14-year-old suspected of breaking a window (webcache.googleusercontent.com)

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[-] IHeartBadCode@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago

Depart policy is to have the taser on the opposite of the body. Sgt. Langan had his taser strapped to the front of his vest.

Failure to follow department policy.

Training is to happen every year. Sgt. Langan had training maybe two or three times.

Department failure to uphold document protocol.

I mean just these two alone they're going to be ripped apart in a civil suit. There's just this whole chain of broken from start to finish, literally none of the links interconnect. This department probably has a ton of systemic issues that State level oversight ought to get involved, but we know that the issues won't be addressed, the department will ask to settle out of court, and literally no one will be punished except the tax payer who will float that settlement.

[-] be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

One-and-a-half years after the teen was shot, no discipline has been given. Sauk Village Police Chief Malcolm White says the disciplinary process has not begun. He said they were waiting to get the Illinois State Police and Cook County State's Attorney's office findings. The State's Attorney's office determined in early September that no criminal charges would be filed against the sergeant for the shooting.

No further comment was provided by the police chief.

[-] skozzii@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

What a hero...

[-] JossyBop@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Bodycam video shows Illinois cop shooting ~~unarmed~~ 14-year-old ~~suspected of breaking a window~~

Tell the story for what it. A police officer shot a child. What they were or weren't suspected of, whether they had a weapon or not, doesn't matter.

[-] iAmTheTot@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

I mean, yes it does. Like it or not, in the US it's not unheard of for a 14 year old to have a gun. The fact that he was unarmed is very relevant.

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

It's not illegal to be armed. It's also not a death sentence. It's only relevant if they're armed AND shooting.

[-] Clent@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

You'd think gun right activists would more concerned with this reality. But I can assume the skin color without reading the article and that is a more uncomfortable reality for them to acknowledge; the reason some of them need to be armed.

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Spot on. The sad fact is, the best gun reform we ever got was when the black panthers decided to arm themselves.

[-] CaptainBuckleroy@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Also, do you believe that a suspect needs to shoot first before being considered a threat by police? I would say "armed and brandishing" would make the individual a legitimate threat.

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

That's fair. I'd read an article titled with that.

[-] CaptainBuckleroy@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I think it's relevant because it's evidence the teen was not a threat. I don't think it's implying an armed individual would automatically be a threat.

There are articles that do draw that false equivalence, and they deserve being called out. I don't think this is one of them.

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