Americans’ views of China more positive again in 2026 : world

[-] BigMacHole@thelemmy.club 26 points 1 week ago

WHY? China SPIES on their Citizens and Commits GENOCIDE!

-People OK with their Tax Dollars funding both Palantir and Israel!

[-] FrankFrankson@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

Well there sure has been enough propaganda being pumped out by China to make that bit of a positive bump.

The Chinese government sucks and anyone who needs a reminder just look up what they did to the Uyghurs.

Just becuase the American government also sucks it doesn't make China's government suck any less.

[-] antisoumerde@quokk.au 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

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[-] FrankFrankson@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

Yeah all China did was erase their culture "re-educate them" which is some Orwellian shit and as a bonus they steralized a fuck ton of them. I am not a western lapdog but you sure are deepthoatin China's dick ya troll!

[-] thethrilloftime69@feddit.online 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

China had a problem with violent Muslim extremism in Xinjiang 25-40 years ago.

China started reeducation camps for them.

The US has spent decades bombing and murdering Muslims creating more extremists.

Which one is a better response to violent religious extremism?

[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Found the human rights abuser!

[-] thethrilloftime69@feddit.online 5 points 1 week ago

Hey man it's not my fault my taxes have funded genocide for decades.

[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

You are just here to deny human rights abuses as long as it is your team.

I don't have a team so I don't need to make excuses for fascist shit countries.

[-] thethrilloftime69@feddit.online 5 points 1 week ago

I'm not on any nation team. I'm on the human team. If humanity can do better, we should. I live in America, and I've read mostly American history so I'm more aware of our crimes. I don't trust anything our captured media says about the rest of the world.

[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

But you will trust anything China says when it denies its long history of human rights abuses?

Something doesn't add up. I do appreciate your appeal to team human and I agree we can and should do better.

I have studied human rights abuses for over three decades now. I can confidently say no nation except perhaps in ancient history can compare to the US levels of human destruction. If you count environmental destruction then no country in history can come close.

[-] thethrilloftime69@feddit.online 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

But you will trust anything China says when it denies its long history of human rights abuses?

So the problem with that is that all the accusations of human rights abuses come from the United States, so who am I supposed to trust? I know I can't trust the US, so why should I take the accusations seriously in the first place?

I have studied human rights abuses for over three decades now. I can confidently say no nation except perhaps in ancient history can compare to the US levels of human destruction. If you count environmental destruction then no country in history can come close.

Oh that's cool. What do you do?

[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I think you are confusing propaganda from the US with numerous investigative reports by reputable journalists and organizations like Amnesty International.

I trust independent reporters who can verify their sources. This is why I believe China has committed numerous human rights violations. They even self admit executing political prisoners.

There really is no question about this and denial basically makes a person a useful idiot. I often see dischenfranchised US citizens looking to other fascist countries like Russia or China for answers. I think the song For What It's Worth about sums it up, "nobody is right if everyone is wrong."

I am a social worker by trade and I have spent my life helping people. I have fought long and hard for dischenfranchised people's rights at steps of my state's capital building. I helped secured the right to gay marriage in Washington State by lobbying my representatives as just one example.

I have been involved in local, state, and federal politics. I have conducted numerous letter writing campaigns that have resulted in political prisoners release. I have been a community organizer and I have gotten laws and policies passed in my city to protect people.

There are so many good ideas out there it isn't funny. There are numerous right ways to do anything and there are creative solutions we still have yet to think of.

[-] thethrilloftime69@feddit.online 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I think you are confusing propaganda from the US with numerous investigative reports by reputable journalists and organizations like Amnesty International.

Cool I like to learn. Can you share a few of them?

They even self admit executing political prisoners.

Isn't that better than not admitting to it? Like the US and it's allies?

I often see dischenfranchised US citizens looking to other fascist countries like Russia or China for answers.

So you'll have to back up calling China fascist. That sounds like being a useful idiot for the CIA if you ask me.

I have been involved in local, state, and federal politics. I have conducted numerous letter writing campaigns that have resulted in political prisoners release. I have been a community organizer and I have gotten laws and policies passed in my city to protect people.

So not in China right?

[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/asia-and-the-pacific/east-asia/china/report-china/

https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2025/country-chapters/china

I am not sure why you would deny China is fascist. Perhaps you are operating on fascism = bad instead of fascism = corporatism. The entire world is pretty much fascist at this point and denying it definitely makes you a useful idiot.

I really think you are being disingenuous at this point. You clearly have picked a side already and that is okay. Have fun with you choosen overlords.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

It's very tiresome to see Americans turn a blind eye to concentration camps in their own backwards while claiming some moral imperative to liberate Xinjiang.

Or Venezuela. Or North Korea. Or Cuba.

[-] FrankFrankson@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I am not doing that dipshit. You are doing the exact thing I was just talking about. Yes America is a shit show right now that doesn't magically make the Chinese government not suck.

America has concentration camps and is arresting innocent adults and children and filling those camps. It's terrible and it does nothing to make China's government suck less.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Yes America is a shit show right now that doesn’t magically make the Chinese government not suck.

This is Whataboutism!

Whataboutism! Whataboutism! Whataboutism!

America has concentration camps and is arresting innocent adults and children and filling those camps.

Help me. I am a 8 year old boy living in the illegitimate Yankee Capitalist regime. President Xi, our shelves are empty and we are hungry. I am asking you to liberate my state of Connecticut with your Chengdu J-20 Stealth air superiority fighters and your Dongfeng 41 Missiles.

[-] FrankFrankson@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Whataboutism is saying how evil America is and acting like that makes China less bad. Every asshole in these comments acting like China is "less evil" than the United States is barfing out whataboutisms.

Trump is a pedophile. This doesn't make China suck less it just makes America suck more.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Whataboutism is saying how evil America is and acting like that makes China less bad.

Aaaaah! My mistake. I didn't realize Whataboutism was America specific. All this time I thought it was a generic rhetorical technique where you try to deflect the blame for your own country's missteps by insisting any other country was worse.

But apparently America is exempt. Perhaps even... exceptional? Is there some kind of American Exceptionalism at play here? One in which America is beyond criticism?

Trump is a pedophile. This doesn’t make China suck less

Okay, but what if the Chinese economy promotes things Americans desire - green alternative energy, public health care and education accessible to residents without respect to income or ethnic background, a near totally-equal redistribution of land among the peasantry following the collapse of the landlord-backed government?

Would that make China suck less?

[-] oatscoop@midwest.social 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They're accusing you of whataboutism ... by using whataboutism. There's nothing to gain in talking to that kind of person.

[-] Rooskie91@discuss.online 9 points 1 week ago

America's just mad because they build de-radicalization camps instead of labeling them terrorists and genociding them.

[-] silentjohn@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago

just look up what they did to the Uyghurs.

What they did according to debunked "eyewitnesses" and anti-communist funded media.

[-] etherphon@piefed.world 5 points 1 week ago

Lemmy is so full of propaganda I'm getting tired of blocking.

[-] antisoumerde@quokk.au 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

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[-] volore@scribe.disroot.org 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

let me preface this by saying I hate the direction the U.S. government has taken (both in general and more as of late), but

> "Guess who doesn’t bomb countries for breakfast? China"

[squints]

[looks over at China]

Well, not yet they don't, I guess. But hey, 2026 isn't even half over yet, we still got time to get this world war started proper.

[-] thethrilloftime69@feddit.online 7 points 1 week ago

This keeps coming up. Go Google search the last time China used military force to get something done.

Eventually you have to realize the only people who see potential war everywhere are Americans.

[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

China is the fourth largest producer of arms now and sells weapons to war torn regions. Giving China the benefit of the doubt when they are now cranking out more billionaires than the US is a ship that sailed a long time ago.

Trumplethinskin, just like Pooh bear, has designs on neighboring countries. Mr. Pooh himself, "Taiwan independence is the chief culprit in undermining peace in the Taiwan Strait - we will absolutely not tolerate or condone it." Yeah, something an imperialist would say, reminiscemt of Russia and Ukraine.

Refusal to recognize Taiwan's unique culture and self-determination is just another nail in a very large coffin of Chinese Imperialism. While I do applaud them for not directly engaging in military conflict there is little reason to when they can control them politically much in the same way the US controls Mexico or Canada.

[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

> “Guess who doesn’t bomb countries for breakfast? China”

[squints]

Sorry, I think they meant they don't bomb countries in the material world that actually exists. In the speculative fantasy world that exists in your head, I'm sure they do all kinds of absolutely horrible things.

In fact, I think it's high time that the imaginary world places imaginary sanctions on imaginary China.

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

make them less bad in comparaison

Okay, but I'm told that's Whataboutism and all Americans are immune to it

But guess who isn’t led by a notorious pedophile? China. Guess who didn’t kidnap a head of state? China. Guess who doesn’t bomb countries for breakfast? China

I'm more than confident that you can find allegations of child sexual assault, kidnapping of rival leaders, and military campaigns against neighbors aimed at China.

[-] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 week ago

Both the US and China are awful for their own shared and distinct reasons. Anyone who disagrees is either a tankie or a MAGA asshole. That said, no country on the planet is morally perfect.

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago

It's clear which of these two superpowers is a greater threat to the world.

[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It always blows my mind to look at that graph. Almost even in 2017 and then it just plummets 30 points over the next 6 years. Nothing even changed, I don't see any discernable reason for it, it was just that the media decided to start shitting on China and making them public enemy #1 for a bit (sparking a massive "unexplained" rise in anti-Asian hate crimes). Obviously they got all the blame for COVID to distract from all the domestic policy failures, but the shift in public opinion started before that.

If you ask people why they suddenly had negative views of China, they'd just cite things like "China has billionaires," or "China saber-rattles over Taiwan," or other stuff that's been true for decades. Those things were just as true in 2017 when China had 43% favorability among Americans, or in 2011 when it was 52-37.

That's the power of propaganda.

[-] SleepyPie@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

The mass detention and "re-education" of Uyghurs and other Muslim minorities in China's Xinjiang region began in early 2017.

The yellow umbrella movement protests and crackdowns reached their peaks roughly in 2019/2020.

These are very discernible reasons.

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