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U.S. Vice President JD Vance said on April 14 that he is proud of Washington cutting off funding to Ukraine amid Russian aggression, listing it among the Trump administration's top achievements.

Speaking at a Turning Point USA event in Athens, Georgia, Vance recalled being confronted by a Ukrainian-American over his calls to halt funding for Ukraine.

"And this person got really agitated at me because I was saying we should stop funding the Ukraine war," Vance said.

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[-] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 143 points 1 month ago

Hey R voters and sitouts: proud yet?

[-] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk 96 points 1 month ago

But they had to sit out the election because of Palestine!

Not that they care that Trump just lifted all restrictions on Bibi in Gaza, the morally important thing is to teach Harris a lesson!

[-] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 49 points 1 month ago

And signal their inability to tell between different levels of evil, or to see things beyond a 14-day timeframe, apparently.

They don't want to understand that harris was the lesser evil from where to start something new. But they are also coward enough to not admit that by not voting, they put pedohitler and harris at the same level.

They won't ever admit it because they know it means that they couldn't see anything worse on the child rapist than in harris. In the end, for them, raping children and supporting israhell not worse than just supporting israhell, meaning that for them, raping children is not something to consider when voting for a president.

[-] loutr@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 month ago

There's the child-raping, and then there's the whole barreling towards a cyberpunk hellhole that Trump and the heritage foundation are engineering. This doesn't seem like a difficult choice to make, I honestly can't understand these people.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

I think when it comes to those people, my judgement is fair: they are amoral idiots who are maybe worse than trump supporters. Trump supporters proudly exclaim they're involved in fascism and everything else that history taught us is horrendous. The protest non voting "leftist" not only hides what they are, they seek to maximize the number of others who increase the damage. Then they want you to feel morally inferior if you didn't join them in helping to destroy the social fabric.

[-] Goodeye8@piefed.social 20 points 1 month ago

I used to be critical of sitouts but over time I've grown more sympathetic towards them. Imagine voting out Trump with the expectation that Trump is going to come swinging next election and democrats will prepare to make sure fascism doesn't get a foothold in America. And then for the next 4 years you see nothing being done to prevent fascism and what worse, you see democrats capitulate to fascists and normalize fascism by moving to the right themselves. I too would get jaded about voting when there's no "I don't want fascists" option. What failed America weren't the sitouts. It's the decades of political apathy letting corporations take over politics, which has led to republicans going full fascist and democrats turning into controlled opposition.

Blaming the sitouts isn't going to solve anything because what are they supposed to do? Voting for democrats isn't going to get rid of the fascists, it's only going to delay until the democrats themselves turn openly fascist. Obviously they shouldn't vote for the republican party because that's a lost cause. Voting current third party candidates is kinda pointless because of how the political system works. So what's the solution you expect from the sitouts? I'dsay sitouts have nothing to do until there's a schism in the democratic party and the progressives split from the establishment democrats. Then sitouts should vote for the progressives and I imagine the vast majority of them will because then they'll actually have someone willing to represent them.

[-] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk 23 points 1 month ago

And then for the next 4 years you see nothing being done to prevent fascism

While Biden should have done more, Trump was put on trial. The system could and should have worked, and Trump would be in prison, except for the corrupt judges instated by Republicans who sabotaged the trials. Especially SCROTUS.

And now the sitouts, who you are sympathetic to, has just put Republicans in power again. And Republicans are appointing more corrupt judges, stacking the courts. All because of sitouts. And then when Democrats are in power again, sitouts will again complain about Democrats doing nothing when those corrupt judges block Democrats. Fuck sitouts, they are stupid.

[-] Goodeye8@piefed.social 17 points 1 month ago

Do you know what would've kept Trump away? Absolute low-hanging fruits like fixing the healthcare system and affordability. Democrats could've taken a "what's a social democracy" checklist, put half of them as their campaign promises and had a landslide victory. The democrats didn't need to put Trump in prison to prevent him, all they needed to do was give the people what they need and they couldn't even do that because it would hurt their corporate overlords.

[-] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk 20 points 1 month ago

Absolute low-hanging fruits like fixing the healthcare system and affordability.

Voters did not give Democrats the votes in Congress for this.

Sometimes I think Americans just don't know how democracy works at all. If you do not give a party legislative power, then you can't blame that party for not passing legislation.

[-] Goodeye8@piefed.social 11 points 1 month ago

So Trump can run on affordability but democrats can't?

[-] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk 13 points 1 month ago

Trump lies. Trump has just caused huge inflation, with the oil crisis caused by the Iran War. Would you be happy if Democrats just lied too?

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[-] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Hello! We offer you a child rapist, convicted felon who supports bibi the nazi, that plans to install nazism in your country and take you back 500 years in rights and quality of life OR a stablishment candidate that will keep things as they are now.

Apparently, things before trump were so awfully worse than people had a hard time between staying the same and voting for the child rapist, convicted felon who supports bibi the nazi, that plans to install nazism in your country and take you back 500 years in rights and quality of life.

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[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

"bad things happened, fuck it I'll help more bad things happen" will never be the reasonable take you're trying to say it is.

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[-] MrSmoothPP@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 month ago

People not wanting blood on their hands is not an endorsement of Republicans doing more of the same.

The only reason you even frame it like that is because you can't defend a party of mass murderers on their own merits, so you have to compare them to Republicans to absolve your own complicity.

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

In a binary system that's the way it goes. It sucks, but that's the reality we live in.

Good job helping Trump win.

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[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 month ago

People not wanting blood on their hands is not an endorsement of Republicans doing more of the same.

Children... 😞

Didn't Mom and Dad teach you about the US system of government? That a vote is for a better option not a perfect option? That you're voting for the public benefit? That it's sometimes about just keeping things from getting worse?

"I didn't vote" means your didn't do even the bare minimum thing you could have done to have stopped Trump. You're culpable.

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I gave up trying to explain to the sitouts why they did wrong. But they refuse to understand even the most basic concept of the lesser evil. All you hear when you discuss with them is "lib", "libtard", some basic insults and a fixed set of "reasons" why they couldn't get to vote for harris and why it's not their fault at all that pedohitler is president.

They are just cowards who refuse to admit they fucked up greatly. It's always someone else's fault with them.

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[-] toomanypancakes@piefed.world 12 points 1 month ago

Maybe there wouldnt be so many sit outs if the Democratic party actually tried to help people, or at least said they will. People are fucking stupid. Whether you think voting for the lesser evil is logically correct or not, that's evidently not how the average American feels. Running an uninspiring, pro genocide campaign doesn't encourage people who don't feel targeted by current politics to engage.

If there's ever another fair election, they simply have to do better. The bar was in the floor and they couldn't clear it.

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[-] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 97 points 1 month ago

Alternate headline: "Being a Bitch to Russia one of the Proudest Achievements of Trump "Administration"."

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[-] iMastari@lemmy.world 89 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

History Lesson: Why all countries need to band together and help Ukraine

The USSR, which was known as the Soviet Union and was a communist government, used to have many countries under their umbrella of control, including Ukraine.

When the Berlin Wall fell in the early 90's Russia dropped the communist part of their government and became the Russian Federation. They gave all the countries under their umbrella autonomy. So more or less, the Russian Federation was no longer in control of all these countries.

Putin is the current President of Russia. He has held this position since 2012, after previously serving as President from 2000 to 2008 and as Prime Minister from 1999 to 2000 and again from 2008 to 2012.

Putin has expressed a desire to restore the glory of the Soviet Union, which is a key part of his domestic and foreign policy goals. He aims to regain Russia's influence in world affairs and strengthen its position against perceived threats, particularly from NATO. (https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26769481)

If Putin regains control of Ukraine, he will move on to the next country, then the next country, until Russia's old glory is restored.

This must not happen.

[-] rayyy@piefed.social 16 points 1 month ago

Ukraine is doing quite well as the premier drone developer. So much so, that countries all over the world now seek their weapons. Their newest drone development is nothing short of awesome.

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[-] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 68 points 1 month ago

Never seen someone so proud of themselves for fucking couches and killing children. Have you said thank you yet?

[-] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk 26 points 1 month ago

Nothing gives Vance a hard-on like abandoning his allies while they are being genocided. Hide your sofas, save your cushions.

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[-] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 1 month ago

It was a free event and only like 100 people showed up and many of them heckled him repeatedly.

[-] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

He still said it. I don't care if he said it to a group of clowns at a birthday party, the Vice President of the USA just admitted publicaly that he's happy civilians in Ukraine are dying because they reneged on an international promise.

This is 100% why I hope no country, no matter what happens in the coming decade or more, ever gives the USA an ounce of trust ever again. A century of good will, ally-ship, and negotiation completely pissed away in less than a year. Why should ANY of us ever trust the USA to hold up any ounce of promise ever again?

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 43 points 1 month ago

Athens, Georgia

My European brain just confused the fuck out of me.

[-] WesternInfidels@feddit.online 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"Athens" is such a popular name for small towns in the US that New York state has two places named "Athens."

"Wow that's dumb," you say. And sure sure, you've got a point.

But what will you say when you find out Pennsylvania has three?

"Jesus H. Christ, that's idiotic," you say. And I can't argue.

But you will be rendered speechless by the news that my own state of Ohio has four localities named "Athens."

...if you don't count the one named "New Athens."

I'm not making this up.

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[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 43 points 1 month ago

Just Dumb and the MAGA fucks continue to break the 1994 Budapest Agreement. If the USA requests you to get rid of your nuclear insurance policy, tell them to f-off.

[-] 73ms@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 month ago

they're not really breaking Budapest memorandum (not that they wouldn't break any treaty in a heartbeat) because it did not say the other signatories would have to defend Ukraine from anyone else. It's still a bad precedent for nuclear disarmament of course but then again the Trump administration has done every fucking thing they can to make literally every country in the world want nuclear weapons now because they've completely broken the old order where countries had at least some faith in USA mostly upholding and abiding by international law and supporting their supposed allies.

[-] Jaybird@lemmy.world 40 points 1 month ago

But by all means, demand help in Iran...

[-] TemplaerDude@sh.itjust.works 35 points 1 month ago

In a good and proper world, JD Vance would get a bullet between the eyes.

[-] MartianRecon@lemmus.org 21 points 1 month ago

Public hanging for being a traitor next to his orange messiah.

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I would rather him die of old age alone in a prison cell in The Hague.

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[-] MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

We should stop funding Israel in return. Let Washington pay for its country-sized military base, we have more pressing and deserving issues at home.

https://citizens-initiative.europa.eu/initiatives/details/2025/000005_en

[-] KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 month ago

Well I'd call the end of The Trump administration one of the proudest moments for America

[-] Sunflier@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

You'd have thought that after Trump 1, but here we are.

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[-] finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

Well ... Vance is a complete dildo.

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[-] MonsterMonster@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

It's amazing that Vance can use so many words to say so little. If he wasn't so full of shit I'd say he's totally vacuous.

[-] gdtf@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 month ago

Couch fucker piece of shit

[-] Lanske@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

What a vile cunt

[-] tirateimas@lemmy.pt 15 points 1 month ago

Europe's help is coming; Ukraine should use it to buy non-US equipment.

For Vance and Trump, perhaps they will end up alone and isolated. That “great” thing they pride themselves on might be fading away.

The world has changed; their world has changed.

[-] Akh@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

Good thing they held out long enough to see Hungry outs big O and have the EU fund them.

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[-] grimpy@lemmy.myserv.one 14 points 1 month ago

sofa-humping GOP surrender monkey

[-] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Fuck off vance, go check in with your momma I hear she is selling your couch for a bag of Ajax cleaner to snort.

[-] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I’m glad shitban is out of Hungary so the EU is not hindered by that piece of shit and it’s all thanks to the couch fucker JD Vance. He killed a pope and Orban’s political career.

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[-] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Bro can you believe we have 2 more years of this shit at least?? I say at least cuz even if trump fails at trying to run for a 3rd term I have such little confidence in dems. I've heard Kamala might try to run again X_X

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