Honestly a huge amount of people overlooked the red flags with Danerys, because reasons. The final flip to full on crazy was poorly done, but there was a history of violent and cruel outbursts.

If they were extremely accomplished at one thing, it was throwing away almost a decade worth of character and story development for basically every surviving character in the show, which is honestly impressive

Might not be character growth... could be tumor in the brain growth.

The probable crazy switch for Dany in the books is fAegon. She's all busy in Mereen, meanwhile fAegon is out there taking Westeros from Cersei and fixing stuff.

When she finally gets her shit together and goes to Westeros along with the Iron Fleet and Mr. Cthullu, the liberator card doesn't work because no one needs to be liberated so she goes nuts. All the pride, violence and idolatry in her arc makes sense.

In the show she was just replacing Cersei. No one likes Cersei, she'd still be a liberator. We'd need Jon unseating Cersei while trying to unite Westeros before Dany arrived for it to make sense. All we got as a trigger was a scene where she was sad because the members of the patriarchal society she just arrived in with three giant fire lizards don't want to drink with her.

The whole point of it is that whatever you described is still somehow better than that disappointing bullshit of a last season

(couldn't find the template i had but i think this can do) lets spread Calvin!

What does that have to do with Starwars?

they think shocking effect just for the sake of shocking is great, and always works for GoT.

NOPE.

Dany the compassionate and kind, snapped just in 1 episode to become his father, burrrn them all.

Jaime whole character arc become waste that he came back to Cersei after post nut clarity with Briene.

Jon Snow, the Ice and Fire, the prince who was promised, Azor Ahai, simping for muhh qweeen, yells at zombie dragon, while Arya stab the big bad Night King like it was just random villain.

Varys, Littlefinger, and Tyrion, those who always playing 4D chess, become so dumb that it hard to watch.

and the most shocking of all: "and who has a better story than Bran the Broken?" like what the fuck man, I thought Bran story become much sinister and dark that he is the Bran of All Time (Bran the Builder, Bran that become Night King, and other Bran, etc). Like, also why bother create a story about the connection between him (as three eyed raven) and the Night King, psychic bond between them when he wargs, etc. and no, it's just "Westeros now are adopting Democracy, and Bran is the leader choosen by the council" thing.

Exactly.

The main reason the original trilogy was so successful is because they were very well made movies made in a time when well made movies hadn't even been done yet.

That's certainly a take...

I just tell people that GoT is the best 4 season TV show in history.

I do appreciate season 5 for the sand snakes jail scene at least.

Anakin did not like sand, so therefore he had to kill all the younglings to win Padme's love. It's a very clear yet compelling character arc.

I'd say so

• plucked from poverty and slavery, despite his mother remaining helpless, by a Jedi that was a part of an order that ultimately saw him as an unscrupulous means to an end of maintaining their power

• he felt as though he could make a bigger difference than he was allowed if stated order relinquished their attempt at controlling him

• this feeling was vindicated by his mother's torture and subsequent death

• had his previously instilled beliefs challenged by two men he respected

• incredibly strong motivation to go against the Jedi's wishes to save the one person he valued more than life itself

I mean... I'm not saying that either one of them is good.

The prequels are hot garbage start to finish. But at least the ending makes narrative sense, if you squint and look at it sideways.

There's just no way to look at the last season and make it make sense.

I think a lot of people got a bad taste in their mouth with episode 1 and they couldn’t look past it. I saw all three in the theater and I enjoyed them all, but the whole Gungan / Jar Jar thing makes episode 1 the weakest for me by far. The whole tone of the movie feels like it was aimed at a much younger audience, even compared to episodes 2 and 3.

Which is bizarre to me, since you have to imagine the core audience for those movies were middle aged people who saw the originals as kids.

Still, nothing is worse to me than episode IX. I’d watch a Jar Jar spinoff before I’d watch that again.