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[-] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 89 points 2 weeks ago

People keep ignoring the fact that Obama struck a deal with Iran that stopped their nuclear weapons program.

Trump killed american troops to get a deal that's worse than the one we already had.

[-] drgeppo@lemmy.world 54 points 2 weeks ago

that shit is making me crazy.. why do I, random European dude, remember trump breaking the Iran deal all those years ago, and no fucking journalist today dares to put a wee little reminder at the beginning of every article just to get all up to speed? wtf man

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 12 points 2 weeks ago

Prolly the same reason mainstream media "forgot" to mention Operation Cyclone back in late 2001 and early 2002, or how they intentionally swallowed the screamingly obvious bullshit of "Iraq has WMDs"

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

just give us a few days before rubbing his nose in it. he might not lose it so bad

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

ah but you seem to ignore that obama was a secret kenyan. he was all sneaky about it, being born in hawaii the way he was.

[-] housedogpartyfavor@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago

and don’t even get me started about benghazi

[-] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 3 points 2 weeks ago

I think it was Letterman who asked Obama why Trump had it in for him.

"I don't know, he's been like that ever since we were kids together back in Kenya."

[-] FatVegan@leminal.space 7 points 2 weeks ago

He couldn't handle the fact that a black guy bombed more brown kids than him.

[-] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

The JCPOA (Obama‘s deal) wasn’t perfect and didn’t stop a nuclear weapon or nuclear enrichment for Iran. At best it delayed it for a decade. It also didn’t do anything about Iran ballistic missile program.

In fact the same year the JCPOA was signed, Iran built a big public clock counting down to Israel‘s destruction in Palestine square. It would reach zero the year the JCPOA ended. So much for their peaceful intentions.

The JCPOA only kicked the can down the road with the hope of a more sane government in Iran later on.

[-] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 7 points 2 weeks ago

Iran built a big public clock counting down to Israel‘s destruction in Palestine square

And Donald Trump swore up and down that Mexico would pay for the Wall.

[-] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

Well the Iranian regime calls for the death and destruction of Israel daily and has for decades. They also have actively armed Hezbollah and others, as well as launched ballistic missiles at their cities.

This is some silly rhetoric. It’s core to their Islamist ideology. They mean it.

[-] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 6 points 2 weeks ago

Well the Iranian regime calls for the death and destruction of Israel daily and has for decades.

The GOP has said that lower taxes for the rich will solve all of americia's problems.

People in power will say anything to keep going.

[-] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

You’re saying that as if Iran‘s elections are worth anything. The regime is very unpopular among the population. Many even applauded and celebrated the Israeli and American air strikes.

[-] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 6 points 2 weeks ago

So, we end up back at your original point.

Obama's plan was a huge step forward and could haven lead to real progress.

Too bad Donnie had a bad day and blew it all up.

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

Sounds like right-wing misinformation to me.

Just as a casual fact check, the JCPOA was signed into law in 2015 and the clock in Palestine square appeared in 2017

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

So what has improved about the situation since Trump threw out the JCPOA?

"Not perfect" doesn't mean it wasn't batter then the current situation.

[-] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

The JCPOA wasn’t great and mostly kicked the can down the road. Trump made the situation worse because he made diplomatic efforts much more difficult.

The core issue is Iran‘s fundamentalist regime and their destructive desires and actions. That’s not Trump‘s fault. It’s an extremely difficult issue, that would have led to war sooner or later, without Iran changing their policies.

tl;dr Trump bad. Iran worse.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

So it would be accurate to say: despite JCPOA not being perfect, Trump's actions have only made the situation worse than if he had left the previously existing agreement in place.

[-] CubitOom@infosec.pub 82 points 2 weeks ago

Remember, Jerry Seinfeld is not just a Zionist, but he also "dated" a 17 year old girl when he was 38. So best case, he is a genocidal groomer.

[-] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 62 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

They aren't charging $2mill. They are charging ¥2mil or crypto equivalent. They are intentionally demolishing the Petrodollar.

More power to them.

Edit: small correction, it is $2mil in yuan or crypto equivalent. A bit higher than ¥2mil.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

They are intention demolishing the Petrodollar.

I think Climate Change and explosion of alternative energy sources is doing that.

They're just trying to evade Western financial restrictions. Dollars aren't useful to a country that's cut out of the LIBOR and SWIFT banking systems.

[-] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 weeks ago

It's not just about how useful the dollar is to Iran, it's about making it less useful to other countries also.

If Iranian oil is back on the market there will be a lot of interested buyers. If it's only sold in yuan or crypto.

The petrodollar wasn't going to last forever youre right but there are many parties interested in ending it sooner than later.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

It’s not just about how useful the dollar is to Iran, it’s about making it less useful to other countries also.

For Iran, specifically, there's no incentive to accept reparations payments in a currency they can't easily collect or exchange. Yuan makes sense, because China is one of their biggest trading partners. Bitcoins make sense because they're easy to launder and can be transferred independent of the NATO-based financial systems.

If Iranian oil is back on the market there will be a lot of interested buyers.

It's more Qatari and Kuwaiti oil at issue. Iranians are just rent-seeking off the most expedient shipping lane.

The petrodollar wasn’t going to last forever youre right but there are many parties interested in ending it sooner than later.

The petrodollar is arbitrage between Middle Eastern raw materials and the western banking system. It could move to the PetroEuro without a meaningful change in foreign policies. Or the PetroLoonie or PetroPound for that matter. All of these countries are in agreement that the Persian Gulf states need to play a secondary role in the global economy.

What Iranians are hoping to change isn't the primary currency of the region, but the balance of power between US/EU colonizers and local people.

The very act of securing the Straight and collecting rent on passage is a huge step in that direction, regardless of what currency they collect their fees in. It's a material change, not just an accounting shift.

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[-] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

So what? IF the dollar collapses, we'll slam in a crypto

Edit slash s

[-] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago
[-] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 weeks ago

Unclear, and fuck all that

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 5 points 2 weeks ago

2mil yuan is roughly 292k dollars. No idea how much that is compared to other shipping costs

[-] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 44 points 2 weeks ago

He thinks he's going to be taking a chunk of those fees. Dumbass.

[-] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

Given his understanding of tariffs, this would not surprise me at all

[-] Lanske@lemmy.world 40 points 2 weeks ago
[-] BeardededSquidward 19 points 2 weeks ago

A Zionist twat. Hope terrible things happen to him.

[-] chloroken@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 weeks ago

He starred in a movie about Poptarts. He is indeed having terrible things happen to him, rest assured.

Also whenever I hear the man speak, I get the sensation I'm listening to a very unintelligent person that nobody has ever called out.

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 40 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Oh, don't forget that now the oil that actually gets through is being traded in yuan and RMB instead of USD, so now the petrodollar is starting to slip away, which is the only reason the dollar can keep it's strength because it leverages every other countries energy budget to contribute to US GDP.

This was true weapons-grade stupidity for that stable genius.

[-] the_armchair_potato@lemmy.world 36 points 2 weeks ago

Not so Iran can make more money....it's for Russia to make more money, duh. Almost everything he does benefits Russia. It's so blatantly obvious, too. Russia has some real good shit on this clown.

[-] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

“Israel and/or Russia first”

[-] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 31 points 2 weeks ago
[-] BeardededSquidward 8 points 2 weeks ago

You are correct.

[-] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

And a pedophile

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 22 points 2 weeks ago

probably seinfeld is a bad example of being used, hes a zionist, his wife has funded prozionist groups, and he loves the war thats going on.

[-] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago

And he's a pedophile

[-] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 2 weeks ago

This reminds me of that meme where a dad says "our cat just got eaten by a coyote so i'm gonna get a new cat from the animal shelter" and the friend says "well it just sounds like you're feeding stray cats to coyotes" and then the daughter started crying ...

[-] Karmanopoly@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 weeks ago

I'm not saying that Trump has embraced the divine light of Allah and is doing all this to ensure that the US has to keep giving the Islamic Republic money years and years after he's gone.

I'm just saying, he did recently tweet "Praise be to Allah." 🤔🤔🤔

[-] J92@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago
[-] redbrick@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Imagine if they actually had nukes...maybe the toll is not so bad??? I'm so confused.

[-] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago

One can imagine that being told "a civilization will die tonight" will act as motivation for them to get one.

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 4 points 2 weeks ago

I recall a political cartoon back when Gaddafi was killed, it was Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (then president of Iran) and Kim Jong Un watching the bombing of Lybia under USA flag, with one asking "What message do you get from this?", and the other replying "Build more nukes!"

[-] redbrick@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

So true...I guess Ukraine did not get the memo.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

11D chess. He's going to turn Iran into another stupid rich petrostate full of corrupt plutocrats.

Iran is going to be another Hong Kong or Singapore by the end of the century.

[-] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Stop the shit they started

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