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[-] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 39 points 2 weeks ago

The profit motive is also the source of enshittification.

[-] Denvil@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 weeks ago

Meanwhile Steam is successful by just not trying to squeeze every last penny they possibly can out of you, and they have a massive grip on games. It's almost like you get more money by not pissing off the people giving you money

[-] oftheair 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Whilst also ignoring the fascists in their forums, and allegedly firing all their moderators who could deal with such problems.

[-] Velypso@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
[-] oftheair 5 points 2 weeks ago

Not really. People like discussing video games as much as anything else. It would be nice not to have to put up with fascists and other bigots whilst doing so.

[-] DaTingGoBrrr@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

That's the one trick capitalists forget about. Happy customers are usually returning customers

Edit: Also free marketing because of recommendations

[-] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 3 points 2 weeks ago

Getting out of the next quarter mindset is very hard for corpos.

[-] ace_garp@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Hey, I'm all of these. 🙃

( * Well, a Luanti player and server hoster)

[-] Arkhive@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 weeks ago

Aaayyyyy!! Fellow non-M$ block game enjoyer!! Maybe check out Vintage Story, I really enjoy it.

[-] EarlOfSam@quokk.au 4 points 2 weeks ago

Luanti, luanti, luanti

Love me voxel games. Simple as. 🟩🟫🟩

[-] missphant 16 points 2 weeks ago

I've never done anything with a profit incentive in my life

...and it's becoming a problem. 😭

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

I honestly struggle to understand people who say stuff like this

Like, do they honestly not have anything productive they would choose to do if they didn't have anything else taking up all their time? What do they envision they do with themselves?

We're humans, humans innately get a kick out of building and creating things, that's the human nature part. When we don't experience that, it's usually down to having the energy ground out of us from our current work or die existence.

[-] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

They understand - they have hobbies too.

What they mean is, THEIR businesses won't be productive without desperate people to force into labor.

[-] jaybone@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago

Problem is, no one wants to lay concrete if instead they could be playing violin.

[-] alternategait@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

I don't even think that's necessarily true. Sure I don't want to lay concrete all afternoon in the blazing sun just like yesterday. But if I had the opportunity and material and could wait for a nice day, I'd totally redo the side walks around my neighborhood three squares at a time. And then go play the violin (ukulele).

[-] loonsun@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 weeks ago

I think you'd be surprised. Lot of people like doing things like that and are more put off by the conditions we ask them to work in.

[-] Yondoza@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

No one would work fast food or retail, but that might be ok.

[-] Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 weeks ago

Even that would happen.

In the Freedom Town debacle, the Libertarian dream^tm^. Where everything was profit -centered. They had a problem with trash because nobody wanted to do that no matter how much they were being paid.

So the town had giant trash heaps everywhere, which attracted bears. And everyone moved or died. The end.

[-] loonsun@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah it would, it just wouldn't look the same. Looking to pre-capitalist societies you find people still making and selling things. Are they doing it for money? Yes and no. An Ale house for example was literally just Ale being sold out of a person's house and that person would change on a rotation as it was made and sold by different people. This was for like a community service than a profit based business venture.

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[-] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 weeks ago

Wdym no one. Like, that's bascially how ancient civilisation do stuff, no profit, just building.

[-] Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 weeks ago

How many concrete pours did ancient civilizations do though?

[-] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 weeks ago

We're not talking about "pouring concrete" in a literal way though, right? What i take from OP is people don't express themselves with hard labour work when they can do it with easier stuff, which is completely wrong, because one, people build big stuff for fun all the time, and two, people can and do actually do both.

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[-] poplargrove@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Would I be wrong to say this is true for most research too? Seems like a missed opportunity not including that.

[-] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

https://www.irasutoya.com/

Free clipart man is basically responsible for every single sign in Japan.

[-] jaybone@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 weeks ago

I’m with you on this. But if(“true”) makes me want to murder people.

[-] outerspace@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe its just a simple way of turning a feature on and off during development

[-] RamenJunkie@midwest.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, like eventually there will be a variable toggle, but for now, we just need it to run until Control+C.

[-] bearboiblake@pawb.social 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Good eye, looks like that source code image is AI-generated, it looks like no programming language I've seen before. It looks closest to a weird hybrid of COBOL and Javascript.

My apologies for unintentionally exposing innocent people to that, I was not aware.

[-] VAK@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Trust fund kids make even better test group for this

[-] RepleteLocum 3 points 2 weeks ago

Firefighters still charge you.

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago

Volunteer firefighters charge you? I mean sometimes they ask for donations I guess.

[-] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

In belgium the personal statute of the firefighters themselves doesn’t matter for the eventual invoice. Some services are paying, other are not (yet). They get compensated for their time though. Who the fuck would not compensate them for their services? I nearly lost my father a couple of times and I practically never saw him growing because he was so invested in that… imagine that for free…

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago

I agree that it is absolutely worth funding fire departments and paying the workers! In the US we have both "professional" (paid) and volunteer (unpaid) firefighters. The volunteers are almost always in rural counties. They have other, unrelated jobs, and are "on call" in their free time (they carry around a radio).

[-] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Well so are our volunteers :) They have daytime jobs + firefighters by night or on the weekends. And they are paid / compensated for their hours in the service.

Yours are not?!

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago
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[-] RepleteLocum 2 points 2 weeks ago

The fire department I volunteered at charged you for stuff like car crashes. A few weeks ago I got a bill from the fire department for a car accident I caused. Maybe it's a European thing? The fire department does get funding from the country and from events they host (that's probably just an Austrian thing)

[-] gwl 3 points 2 weeks ago

Just Austria being weird it sounds like to me

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[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

Still, considering the spirit of the post... were you paid out of that money?

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago

But not to enrich themselves.

[-] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

All of these reward you with status among your peers.

[-] gwl 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yeah, we all know that WIKIPEDIA EDITORS are the highest of the high in status, so many famous Wikipedia editors such as;

And don't forget

So much status

[-] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

You missed.

among their peers

Wikipedia editors have a lot of power to influence the narrative on lots of political topics.

[-] gwl 2 points 2 weeks ago

Press X to doubt

The ability to perform a task well, possessing a useful/impressive/entertaining skill, or at least being useful to a group has generally rewarded a person with status throughout human history, regardless of motive or incentive. Sometimes, that status is limited to very specific peers, though it can often provide various levels of status in a larger societal sense.

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