Sweden to Supply Tridon Mk2 Air Defense Systems to Counter Shahed Drones (www.kyivpost.com)

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Unlike systems that rely on hydraulic drives, it uses electric drives, making integration with various platforms easier, the ministry said.

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[-] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

I honestly believe that the enormous amount of drones on the battlefield today will cause a resurgence of flak as a primary AA weapon. For a while now, missiles have been the go-to, but expensive and advanced missiles can be countered by massive swarms of cheap drones. Flak cannons with modern targeting systems and automatic range finding is probably the most reasonable counter to these drone swarms.

[-] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago

I agree but I think people are also missing that attack helicopters are already flying flak cannons.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

With other "stuff" in them, like long threads winding up in drone rotors, em bursts, etc.

[-] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

I'm honestly a bit surprised that some kind of net that can be shot from an under-barrel mounted grenade launcher hasn't been developed/deployed yet. I'm imagining something like a standard 40 mm grenade casing that contains a net that folds out after maybe 50 m (or a programmable distance, or a proximity trigger). Very thin/light strings are enough to take down a drone, so you could probably easily pack a 5 x 5 m or even 10 x 10 m net into a 40 mm casing. People are already shooting at drones with rifles, I would imagine something that lets you shoot out a large net to 100 + meters would make taking down drones a lot easier for an infantryman, and being able to fire it from a standard barrel-mounted grenade launcher would make it very easy to deploy.

I would imagine that this kind of thing could drastically improve the ability of infantry to deal with drones when they are exposed. I'm sure there's a good reason this hasn't been implemented, but I have a hard time figuring out what that reason is.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 hours ago

Same here. I imagine there is probably some thing making it useless, like you just don't have the time to get the "gun" out or even aim, or there are branches everywhere or they'll just drone drop you anyways etc.

What a horror it all is.

[-] tomatolung@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 day ago

$8-12 million per so somewhere between 38 and 57 of them based on raw division. Probably less than 38 though as my guess is the 400€ million is inclusive of training, support, delivery, ammo, integration, etc.

Also doesn't indicate timeline.

It'll be interesting to get a side by side comparison vs the Rheinmetall SkyRanger, given both use programmable ammo and also have different range and integration characteristic.