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[-] AnarchoEngineer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 213 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

ACTUALLY ITS BOILING SODIUM!!… ~which then gets used to boil water~

[-] Akh@lemmy.world 139 points 1 month ago

I love that deep down, coal, gas, nuclear, this thing… all done to heat water, make steam, use steam to turn turbines…. We are just in a steampunk universe

[-] BC_viper@lemmy.world 90 points 1 month ago

Always has been.

[-] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 67 points 1 month ago

Solar panel projects, which many have outstripped this and other projects in power limitations, do not boil water to generate electricity.

[-] lauha@lemmy.world 53 points 1 month ago

And wind turbines, and hydroelectric plants.

But all but solar cells are pretty much turbines all the way down

[-] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 19 points 1 month ago

Hydroelectric power stations still rely on steam, it's just in another part of the cycle.

[-] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

What? Hydroelectric power stations use gravity and the falling or flowing water makes the turbines turn. No steam.

Thermal plants (nuclear, coal, gas), including solar thermal plants, use steam.

[-] TheOctonaut@piefed.zip 32 points 1 month ago

He means water vapour, ie the rain cycle.

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago
[-] TheOctonaut@piefed.zip 9 points 1 month ago

I didn't say it was a good quip

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[-] wewbull@feddit.uk 9 points 1 month ago

Well there hydro power, where we just skip the boiling part and have water turn turbines.

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[-] LSNLDN@slrpnk.net 57 points 1 month ago

I have a theoretical degree in physics

[-] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 21 points 1 month ago

it better be a degree celsius

[-] MoffKalast@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago
[-] Slovene85@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago

The home alone guy?

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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 12 points 1 month ago

Welcome aboard!

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[-] ascend@lemmy.radio 56 points 1 month ago

Oh neat like the ones outside Vegas, I always wonder if birds fly into the center

[-] BluJay320 117 points 1 month ago

Well they certainly don’t fly out of it

[-] ascend@lemmy.radio 10 points 1 month ago

The ones with cameras might, probably a big conspiracy

[-] inari@piefed.zip 35 points 1 month ago
[-] errer@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago
[-] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 48 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I love how fucking biased that article is. It mentions Obama like 10 times, including this gem:

Clearly, the Obama administration decided to spend taxpayer funds on a technology that was poorly conceived and quickly outdated.

Thanks for the hindsight, moron writer guy. So what's trump doing, investing in better renewables?

No, instead of building an underperforming power plant, he spent the same money just to prevent a power plant from being built.

Money for nothing and the chicks for free amirite.

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[-] rayyy@piefed.social 31 points 1 month ago

Never sell proven chemistry or physics short. Water transforming to a vapor is awesome. Maybe we could harness the energy of water transforming to a solid too.

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[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 month ago

It's so crazy that we've found like six different ways to use rocks to boil water. You'd think there'd just be two or three

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[-] veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 month ago

It's incredibly silly that even tho we advance the scale of power, with electricity, solar and even nuclear, all we use it is to boil water. We just can't seem to be able t build any a more advanced mechanism, it seems.

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 month ago

Hard to beat spinning a magnet to generate electricity, and it's hard to beat boiling water to spin a magnet

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[-] MML@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago

I think this may be due to the specific heat of water, no other substance matches it.

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[-] Dippy@beehaw.org 9 points 1 month ago

Wind and photovoltaic have nothing to do with water

[-] apotheotic@beehaw.org 11 points 1 month ago

Mfw they use wind and photovoltaic energy to pump water to a high place so they can put it through a turbine later

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[-] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 month ago

It turns out boiling water is a really good idea.

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[-] Bad_Ideas_In_Bulk@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

There are a lot of options, but water works, is cheap as hell, and spills aren't much of an issue.

[-] Fabrik872 13 points 1 month ago

Are we against boiling water only because it is old? Because if that is the only problem and we are ok with reliability and efficiency than i will take old

[-] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

It's more that when you look at history and technological progress, and our (millenial's) own view on technological progress, the current stagnation and the permeation of said stagnation is a pain point. Every time we look at the news, it's something going fucking wrong, and never delivering on the promise of a better , brighter future.

We saw computers go from 100s of Mhz to 3 ghz ish and just get fucking stuck there. From 16 meg to 64 gigs, and now we can't buy any ram. We had touch interfaces being able to show you an arbitary interface and instead of innovation, we got swiping through stupid videos. We look through the history we didn't live through, and see that in the 20th century, we went through flight and rockets to the fucking moon and then nothing. We have a rocket going to the moon with people in it again for the first time since the 70s, and they aren't even doing anything new, just flying around. We expected there to be fucking bases on MARS by the time we got to the distant year of TWO THOUSAND AND TWENTY SIX.

Even now, when we're coming to harvesting power from the sun, in a seemingly new way (focusing it with mirrors onto salt) it's just going to be the same shit, nothing new, no innovation. Just put the hot rock into water, and harvest it through steam power as if it's the fucking 1800s.

Also, it has a light relation to the evolution inevitably creating crabs once again meme of Carcinisation.

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[-] nexguy@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

It's just used to scroll social media again isn't it?

fun fact, u can also boil opposed spy satelites with that setup

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I doubt it, calibrating a focal point to a stationary, relatively nearby target, say a hundred metres or so, is fairly simple, but to apply that to a satellite, a moving target (with a changing velocity if we are talking about a satellite in an eccentric or molnya orbit) either in high or low earth orbit, that's a distance of between 200-20,000kms.

Even a satellite in perfectly circular orbit is constantly changing its distance relative to a point on the ground, meaning you have to constantly adjust the focal point of the mirrors. At 250km, your field of mirrors (say, a 100m circle of them) would describe about 0.023 degrees of curvature, almost completely flat.

And that's before accounting for atmospheric attenuation and scattering of the light.

On a clear night with many gw of laser energy, maybe you could peel the skin off a low orbit satellite, but even that would be impractical.

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[-] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Physicists just looove a hot shower

That's the reason why all electricity generation boils down to hot water.

[-] snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago

Well molten salt batteries are a thing, I'm presuming this is to buffer the output of the solar and that the losses were deemed acceptable given the renewable nature of this.

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[-] Napster153@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

MA! NEW ACE COMBAT BOSS JUST DROPPED!!

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[-] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 9 points 1 month ago

Wot if instead of boiling water, we boiled CO2, and instead of boiling CO2, we kept it at high pressure so that it never quite reached boiling or condensation?

[-] Bazell@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 month ago

Using water is cheaper and easier. That is all that stop your idea from being IRL.

[-] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

"The only downside of your idea is that it is terrible."

[-] Town@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 month ago

This kills the crab

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