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submitted 11 months ago by bwoah@lemmy.world to c/formula1@lemmy.world

Continuation: Absolutely don’t buy into the weak view we shouldn’t put them through this kind of challenge. Check out Senna in Brazil, Stewart at rainy Nurburgring, Lauda post crash, etc etc

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[-] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 75 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yes, throwing up in your helmet and passing out at the wheel is both strong and manly!

He's comparing imperfect driving conditions and freak accidents with undeniable health concerns. Everyone can suffer from heat stroke- it doesn't care how fit you are. Poor taste and bad take.

[-] Ejh3k@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

So what should they have done? Call the race when Logan came in? Install air conditioning? Red flag the race for a mandatory 20 minute cool down/rehydration?

They are all full grown adults and they should know their limits. Their engineers and principles know they'd rather them park a fully functional car than pass out, wreck it, and die. Logan did it, and you better believe that every person on Williams is thankful he did than the former, and he has the most at stake.

Every single driver mad their choices to stay in that race or retire.

[-] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 43 points 11 months ago

I don't think they should race in Qatar to begin with, but if they must - it needs to be moved into cooler months. Drivers will always drive, there is no question of their dedication and desire to take a win, but athletes also shouldn't be subjected to inhumane competition conditions. How many red flags have gone out because the track conditions were poor? Why isn't heat taken as seriously?

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 11 months ago

For all we know it was another Saudi situation where everyone knew it was unsafe but the country implied they couldn't leave without racing

[-] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Brundle is full of bad takes on safety despite my like of him for other reasons. The man casually talks about teammates and other drivers dying like flies back in his day like it was no problem. Unfortunately he is locked in the time of not caring about driver deaths because that was part of it

[-] Rob@lemmy.world 45 points 11 months ago

This is a terrible take and I would’ve expected better from Martin Brundle. A sport can be challenging and entertaining without endangering athletes well-being to such a degree. If the choice is to either DNS/retire or push the driver beyond the limit, you’re always incentivising the worse choice.

Sure, F1 carries an inherent risk, but there’s no need to make it actively worse. Qatar is a terrible place to go racing and this weekend proved it. Everyone knows it, and the only reason there’s a grand prix there is money and sports washing.

[-] regul@lemm.ee 9 points 11 months ago

I would’ve expected better from Martin Brundle

Would you? I wouldn't. He's old and out of touch and has been for ages.

[-] SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world 32 points 11 months ago

What about Senna post crash? Was he not man enough to suck it up or what?

Braindead take from an otherwise respectable guy. L for Brundle mate sorry

[-] koolkiwi@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago

Don't buy into the weak point that these drivers shouldn't crash straight into concrete barriers at full speed! That's when they show they are true athletes.

[-] TheBlue22 27 points 11 months ago

Maybe we should not race in these fucking conditions.

The track was unprepared, and the weather was insane. They should not hold this race this time a year, and if there is not a good time of year to hold this race, it should not be held at all.

We have enough Middle Eastern tracks in the calendar. But hey, FIA wants money.

[-] Ambiorickx@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

Monkees must dance! If monkee die, we has sad. But next weekend, monkees must dance again!

[-] grumpyoldgit@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

That's very much the old school macho mindset that was prevalent in F1 when Brundle was driving.

I don't think many of the current drivers buy into that.

[-] bob@feddit.uk 5 points 11 months ago

Wow, that's really put me off him. I usually switch to international audio or whatever it's called on f1tv, reconsidering now...

[-] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I wonder how many complaining about this take, said the same thing during the Dutch GP? Or the '22 Japanese GP? Or the '21 Belgium GP?

[-] TheBlue22 6 points 11 months ago

There is a difference between rain and heatstroke. If you got into a bad crash with a fire, who knows how many drivers would get out in time with the latter

[-] HardlightCereal@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

F1 drivers are villains, because they make people think it's cool to pollute

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