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[-] Cherry@piefed.social 178 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I don't understand how they cant see that once we leave we leave. If you bite into that and hate it; its a cycle broken and we we unlikely to trust the product ever again.

[-] P1nkman@lemmy.world 114 points 1 month ago

It's what happened with Bassets Winegums. Used to be my absolute favourite candy. Wife came back from the UK with a box,I opened it and the taste was... Different. Googled - turns out they changed the recipe after being purchased by some large conglomerate. I haven't had one of their candies since 13 years ago. Fucking idiots.

[-] sepiroth154@feddit.nl 19 points 1 month ago

Well if they all do it, who are ya gonna run to?

[-] Cherry@piefed.social 78 points 1 month ago

i will have to give it up. it will be easier if its crap anyway. Learning to pay for what you actually want vrs you think you want are two different things.

[-] r00ty@kbin.life 36 points 1 month ago

The thing is, they won't ALL do it. The big names will. Real chocolate will become more of a luxury thing you have less often (which, to be fair is probably a good thing) and the established brands might survive on some blind brand loyalty, or die out.

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[-] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 22 points 1 month ago

Not eating candy is always an option for adults with an ounce of self control.

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[-] Deebster@infosec.pub 14 points 1 month ago

There are plenty of companies still selling actual chocolate, and since it's chocolate and not chocolate-flavoured sweets I think it'll just become smaller and/or more expensive. Which is fine.

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[-] MonsterMonster@lemmy.world 117 points 1 month ago

I didn't know Hershey's used Cocoa, I thought the main ingredient was vomit.

[-] Thwompthwomp@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago

I’m assuming you of course are aware, but that is a tasting note. As in hersheys will specifically call out that tasting note as intentional if you do a tasting tour. It explained why I only ever liked their special dark and hates their regular bar.

[-] chaogomu@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

It's a tasting note, because the original Hershey's milk chocolate chemist accidentally spoiled the milk as part of his process.

It took a decade or two to figure out what was wrong, but by then the American public was used to vomit tasting milk chocolate.

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[-] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 82 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Guys (and gals), there's simple solution to all that: learn to bake.

We are a community of makers. We write our apps ourselves, we host our shit by ourselves, we stream our music and our movies by ourselves. So what should we do when bad corporations are taking away our snacks? Make them yourself!

Recipes are free and open. The tools are not expensive (not much RAM in the oven). There's nothing stopping us.

So, do we need baking community?

Edit: So... !baking@lemmy.curiana.net ? It's my self hosted server. Will that work?

[-] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 16 points 1 month ago

Yes. Host recipes. Get productive.

[-] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

This has basically been my mantra for the last 5 years. "Fuck off, I'll do it myself."

[-] grue@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

So, do we need baking community?

!bready@lemmy.world

Chocolate is often candymaking, not baking, though.

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[-] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 72 points 1 month ago

"We are proud to announce our products are completely free of any natural ingredients!"

[-] grue@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Reminds me of CHOW, the "food-free food" marketed by Famine in Good Omens.

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[-] Lor@mander.xyz 71 points 1 month ago

This has been that way for a while now. Reeses and Hershey's suck. They use a PINCH of cocoa powder and their chocolate tastes and feels like wax. The peanut butter filling is basically peanut flavored sawdust. They spend crazy amounts of money reduce ingredient costs while still maintaining a somewhat edible product. They end up with "chocolate favored wax/oil and sugar". Boycott them. You can get way better chocolate at Aldi.

[-] SippyCup@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

I was getting some melting wafers the other day and grabbed a bag of Ghirardelli, which has been pretty reliable in the past. I didn't catch that they were "chocolate flavored" wafers until I was at checkout. Chocolate was the 8th ingredient.

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[-] Slashme@lemmy.world 42 points 1 month ago

I took two bites and had to spit it out

That's how I reacted the first time I tasted Hershey's chocolate.

[-] catbum@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago

Inb4: butyric acid

A somehow necessary ingredient in Hershey's which lingers unpleasantly on the palate, otherwise known as a stomach acid which imbues your vomit with the unmistakeable flavor of vomit

^Whyyyyyyyyy^

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[-] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 41 points 1 month ago

I recently had something sold as chocolate that contained 0% cocoa, its just a chunk of palm oil. First time I have ever had chocolate so bad I threw it in the bin. I can also taste it in Cadburys now, or they have increased their palm oil amount since I had eaten it previously.

I will be checking ingredient lists more often when buying chocolate now. If palm oil is the main ingredient it can fuck off.

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[-] metermatic26@lemmy.world 40 points 1 month ago

“One German brand, the Nestlé-owned Choco Crossies, recently announced it was eliminating cocoa altogether from its new Snack Vibes line, replacing it with ChoViva, a lab-grown chocolate alternative made from fermented sunflower and grape seeds.”

How the fudge did we end up in this dystopian nightmare? ಥ_ಥ

[-] NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 month ago

Child slavery is frowned upon just enough that they have eliminated real cocoa. People won’t pay for non-slave rates, so they have to go with synthetic product.

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[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

We continued releasing more and more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere for decades after learning that it was causing increasingly extreme weather

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[-] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 1 month ago

I only eat the opposite type of chocolate, that being chocolate so dark its 90-97% coco content. I want my chocolate so natural, earthy, and bitter that it tastes similar to chocolate (that's just my preference not that it makes me any better or worse than anyone else).

[-] traxex@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 month ago

I’ll say it, it makes you better. (This is not biased, I just so happen to also have that same preference)

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[-] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 36 points 1 month ago

Club, one of my childhood favourites with the advert song of "If you like a lot of chocolate on your biscuit, join our club" -- no longer has enough cocoa to be legally called chocolate.

Madness.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c86737yg3jlo

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

... I just buy bags of ghiradelli dark chocolate baking chips, and eat a handful, when I feel like snacking on chocolate.

They have 72% cacao chips, but that is bit too rich for my taste and my wallet, 60% seems to hit the spot.

Much cheaper per weight than actual ghiradelli chocolate squares or whatever.

And you can just toss a few into some fresh hot coffee, stir for a minute, kablamo choco-coffee.

Anyway, yeah, most US 'chocolate' is disgusting.

[-] Soggy@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

most US ‘chocolate’ is disgusting.

Most by sheer volume because four companies make damn near every candy bar in the grocery store? Sure. Most by percent of discrete chocolatiers? Nah. There's tons of good chocolate in the US, it's just priced as the luxury good it should be (turns out slavery is great for keeping prices down)

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[-] kittykillinit@lemy.lol 33 points 1 month ago

There is no corner they aren't willing to cut.

[-] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago

EU has laws stating how much raw cocoa a product that calls itself chocolate must have.

US has none of that

[-] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

The US, UK and EU all have government regulations about how much – or how little – cocoa an item can contain and still be considered “chocolate”, but those regulations are much stricter in Europe. In the UK, for instance, after Pladis reduced the amount of cocoa bean-derived ingredients in its McVitie’s Penguin and Club bars to below 20%, both treats were officially demoted from “chocolate” to “chocolate flavour”. In the US, the threshold is 15%, and low-cocoa items like the Unwrapped Mini Hearts can still be described as “chocolate candy”.

From the article, this is where the other answer probably got they link.

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[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 32 points 1 month ago

hershey isnt real chocolate, they add a bitterent that why it taste like shit, i think its butyric acid.

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[-] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 31 points 1 month ago

~~Candy makers~~ capitalists

FTFY

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[-] hr_@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago

It's fascinating how hard some sectors are fighting to forbid replacement meats or milks to call themselves steak or milk. But those products barely resembling the original name are completely allowed to call themselves chocolate or fruit juice (based on some concentrate and some other stuff).

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[-] bluefootedbooby@sopuli.xyz 28 points 1 month ago

Well obviously it sucks that the fake cocoa is disgusting, but I have to say I kinda am for the effort of trying to create an alternative, given how the cocoa producers are notorious for exploiting child labor and how terrible it is for the environment

[-] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Another way of reminding us there is enshittification.

Nearly no one touches the chocolates at most supermarkets I went to. Far cry from when 40 years ago, workers from overseas would include chocolate bars in care packages.

That real cocoa are mostly from developing countries, not all are politically stable.

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[-] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 25 points 1 month ago

When you can taste the enshittification of everything.

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[-] ms_lane@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago

They'll phase anything but sugar.

[-] geo07@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 month ago
[-] ShotDonkey@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

It's not capitalism alone, it's climate change also that is disrupting cocoa yields and makes prices go through the roof.

[-] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago

Climate change and capitalism are inseparable

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[-] Teknikal@anarchist.nexus 19 points 1 month ago

That's how I've felt about soft drinks in the UK since they pulled the sugar tax, now every drink just tastes of sweeteners. I'm guessing most people can't taste them or something but I can't stand them.

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[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 13 points 1 month ago

Pretty interesting that this was something I remember being warned about 26 years ago

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[-] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

But the real appeal of mass market chocolate like Hershey’s has always been its cheapness.

There it is.

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