As a vegan, I don't expect to convince everyone to be vegan because people need to eat food and meat-based foods are often tied into peoples cultures. Sure, I think it would be the kinder, more compassionate option if they stopped, but I don't expect them to stop or bully them for not stopping.

On the other hand, no one needs AI, literally no one (outside of medical applications), and the only culture it's entangled with is the slop culture itself, the enemy of humanity, the Great White West. I expect them to stop and I will bully every single one, every single time I see AI use, for not stopping.

The flatpak version finally updated its dependencies on an out of date library, so that much is an improvement. I don't use it for much though, mainly to run origin or whatever they're calling it now.

Cory Doctorow explores this in his most recent column, describing the concept of "Centaurs" and "Reverse Centaurs".

A centaur is a human piloting a machine body. They're faster and stronger because of the machine, but the human is in charge. A reverse centaur is a machine piloting a human body; a brainless head on a largely inferior body.

In the context of generative AI, centaurs are people use AI tools carefully, intentionally, and of their own volition. They have the knowledge necessary to assess when the output of the machine tools is good or bad, and the machine simply becomes, like any other tool, a way of leveraging their abilities more efficiently.

A reverse centaur is when you have a "human in the loop." An intern told to write a stack of columns that would take ten experienced writers a week, in only a few days, but don't worry you can just use ChatGPT it'll be so fast. That person really only exists for two purposes; to push the buttons that make the machine go, and, far more importantly, to eat the blame when the machine fucks up. They were the "human in the loop" so they were supposed to catch the bad output, but they were never given the time or the expertise to do so, and they were placed in a scenario where using genAI was the only possible choice to get the outcome that was demanded of them.

I don't see the use of AI tools, especially in areas that they are well suited to like coding, as automatically befitting the "AI slop" descriptor. Gen AI can be extremely effective as a coding assistant, when used with care, and by someone with enough knowledge to read the output and understand it completely. As you say, a huge amount of normal everyday coding has, for decades, been copy and pasting code blocks because why the fuck would repeat work that someone else has already done??? And for decades bad coders have screwed themselves over by copy-pasting code they don't understand or didn't bother to properly read and parse. That's nothing new.

Now, it's also completely reasonable for people to hold ethical objections to genAI that are entirely separate from any practical concerns. If someone's position is "I do not care how good the output is, because I believe it comes from a fundamentally immoral technology", I think that's a completely cogent moral stance. I have no argument against that. I'd just ask to not use the term "AI slop" when describing that objection, because I think it really muddies the waters and makes it extremely unclear what you're actually objecting to. If your problem is one of ethics, say that. Don't just re-use a term you heard elsewhere that's tangentially related.

yes, yes I have. fuck ai there is no excuse. I'd rather a project die completely if they think they can't suddenly survive without ai contributions that actively harm the planet on which we live. there's no planet B and some piece of software is not more important than that

If you're tired of this community you're in the wrong place.

The description of this community literally reads:

A place for all those who loathe AI

So why are you complaining? Do you also go to McDonalds and yell at people eating french fries?
I'm sure there's a community for people who love AI on the Fediverse as well.

Edit: Just did a quick search, there is claudeai, gemini, microsoft_copilot, chatgpt and openai on lemmy.world. Lots of other places for slop enthusiasts to present their greatest achievements.

You're talking to a wall, most people in here are so far into delusion they won't accept anything anymore. They have a zero tolerance policy and direct it at the small fish instead of the actual problem, which is governments using it to kill people, companies investing billions into speculation, and nobody stopping them or making them pay for copyright infringement.
People like this don't understand there's a spectrum to it, from full on Vibecoding to just AI code reviews, fixing that one awful bug you've been kicking down the road for 6 months, for finding information in a gigantic codebase, validating data in a way that won't take you 15 weeks to implement, etc etc. They also don't understand anything about a developer's full process, so how could they possibly judge?
You used AI? Now all your life's work is invalid and your experience means nothing.

I hate what AI is doing to my livelihood and long standing hobby. Am I still using it and will continue to do so? Hell yes.

what a moronic take :(

Come on, is there anything that's safe?!

This kind of thinking is what makes billionaires who back AI companies to keep increasing their investments in AI Capex, while leaving others with nothing but increasingly expensive parts and damaged environments.

It's really hard to argue against that final paragraph though for real. These are free time projects that people spend time on for the benefit of others. I dunno. Food for thought?

oh yes. i caught their comment on github about this already.

if i had the time i'd fork this and block AI contributions outright. slop certainly doesn't belong in something that allows us linux users to play something that's windows exclusive, cause lord knows what it'll break.

I would argue that if more people went outside and touched grass they wouldn't come up with ludicrous non-answers like "code it yourself" because they'd meet people from walks of life who aren't coders.

Everything that can't use steam(UbiSoft for example) has worked for the most part in Lutris. Currently I am playing Chromiecraft(private WoW) with it.