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Lutris is AI slop now
(lemmy.nz)
"We did it, Patrick! We made a technological breakthrough!"
A place for all those who loathe AI to discuss things, post articles, and ridicule the AI hype. Proud supporter of working people. And proud booer of SXSW 2024.
AI, in this case, refers to LLMs, GPT technology, and anything listed as "AI" meant to increase market valuations.
It's crazy how fast the online left has changed it's mind about "no ethical consumption under capitalism", and "individual actions are useless".
Whenever vegans bring up the impact a persons choice has, like a water footprint roughly a gallion times bigger than AI use, noone feels responsible. It's all just the companies or the politicians or the systems fault. No individual is ever complicit for purchasing their products.
Sadly, the true reason is obvious: Individual responsibility is only fun when it's about shaming others for something I don't like doing anyway
For reference, I'm not saying AI is awesome. I'm not a fan, at least of it's current hype infested version. Maybe the bubble bursting will produce a bearable version of AI.
As a vegan, I don't expect to convince everyone to be vegan because people need to eat food and meat-based foods are often tied into peoples cultures. Sure, I think it would be the kinder, more compassionate option if they stopped, but I don't expect them to stop or bully them for not stopping.
On the other hand, no one needs AI, literally no one (outside of medical applications), and the only culture it's entangled with is the slop culture itself, the enemy of humanity, the Great White West. I expect them to stop and I will bully every single one, every single time I see AI use, for not stopping.
All of that just seems like special pleading, and has no moral basis at all. "It's my culture" is morally equivalent to "I've always done it this way", tradition is just "My parents have always done it this way". I hope I don't have to bring any examples to demonstrate how often "culture" was horrendously immoral.
In the end, going vegan does require some amount of effort, at least initially. Guess what? If someone has gotten used to using LLMs for many parts of their live, it would ALSO require some amount of effort to replace it. You might say that veganism requires more effort atm, which I could agree with. But that begs the question: If AI lives long enough, will it suddenly become totally fine, simply because it's just as integrated into daily life as meat eating is?
Finally, "they need to eat food" is to veganism as "I need to learn" is to LLMs. In both cases there's better alternatives.
calling a halt to an unrelenting slaughter and cruel, pain and dread filled lifestyle the "kinder and more compassionate option" sure is a take
Sorry, my priority is having people be exposed to the concept of veganism in a palatable manner instead of being a white liberal about it and aggressively signaling the moral superiority of my virtues at the first given opportunity thereby guaranteeing their aversion to the concept and the continuance of said unrelenting slaughter and dread. I'm a bit more in it for the animals than my ego, but to each their own.
Sorry my priority are the animals instead of being palatable. The focus has to be on the oppressed and not the oppressor.
People who aren’t honest about what it means to not be vegan won’t last and in most cases won’t change. If it’s only about denying themselves so they can become a better person, like some ascetic then they will fall back into their genocidal ways. If they’re scared about what others think of them they won’t last. Vegans are the safest group of people to make fun of. I know what made me go vegan and it was people not dancing around the fact that these animals that are slaughtered on a conveyor belt had siblings, at least a mom, probably friends who loved them. That me continuing with what I was doing was monstrous. The people trying to be nice about it I could just ignore. “Agree to disagree” or whatever.
The correct take is not that vegans are good because they're vegan, Veganism is characterised by the lack of action (i. e. not murdering, not stealing etc.). The correct take is that non-vegans are evil, because non-veganism is a lifestyle characterised by murder and oppression.