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submitted 4 hours ago by DCinBC@lemmy.world to c/reddit@lemmy.world

Well, it may be a “tale as old as time” but here I am… 8 year Reddit veteran with 660K karma as of last week. I had a hella shock a couple of mornings ago when I refreshed the home page only to see a big red banner saying “this account has been permanently banned from Reddit, see your inbox.”

I check my inbox, and there is nothing there. Great.

OK, I’ve had some experience with weird Reddit moderation over the years. I’ve appealed sub bans and been reinstated, or not bothered. I’ve been permabanned from at least one group for saying sarcastic and critical things about Israel (not about Jewish people per se, about Israel the nation state under its current regime). I’ve waited out a week ban without complaining because I did use intemperate language late one evening, or carelessly broke a rule like “all top comments must include a link to a published paper”.

But a permaban from the entire platform?? That came as a real shock. And there was no explanation. I could see that one of my comments from the evening before had been deleted, but I have no memory of the content of that particular comment; I think I was saying something angry or critical about the US/Israel attack on Iran, but I don’t recall it being particularly fiery or profane.

A day or so later the message finally landed, telling me that my account had been banned because of “repeated violations of policy by other accounts that you own.” (Emphasis mine). This was really baffling — I have never had any other Reddit accounts, just the one I’ve been using these 8 years. I tried an appeal, explaining that I was bewildered and had no alt accounts. The appeal was flatly denied w/in 24 hours. So that was that. No other recourse. I have been excommunicated.

This raises all the usual questions about Reddit governance. It feels very arbitrary and opaque. There is no due process, no jury of one’s peers, and evidence is destroyed (comments deleted rather than just hidden from everyone other than mods and the original commenter). There is no proper explanation of what caused the ban, no debrief. It’s a bit like the cops arresting you because of something they say they found in your car, but they’ve removed and destroyed the thing they claim to have found :-). And you can’t remember every single bit of junk you kept in your car so you have no idea what it was that triggered the arrest.

Anyway, kissing g’bye to 8 years of content — and karma that I earned the hard way, 5 and 10 and 100 upvotes at a time, not by karma farming — is hard, like losing a carefully crafted RPG character after putting in hundreds of hours of campaign. I have enjoyed Reddit over the years and it’s oddly saddening to be thrown out so abruptly and with no explanation.

If anyone’s still reading at this point :-) I’d like to know whether other people have had this same experience. If you have not been posting racist/misogynist/homophobic drivel, threats, obscenities, scams etc — and yet you suddenly got axed for no clear and explicit reason, then we’re in the same boat. Are there any theories about why/how this happens? Is this the malice of specific humans, or some kind of automodding gone badly wrong?

I’m kinda done with Reddit at this point because of this incident. I don’t see the point in creating a new account (which I guess is technically a rule violation in and of itself) only to have to walk on eggshells wondering at what point some random statement of my opinions is going to get me exiled to Siberia again. Hence I’m giving Lemmy a try. The community is much smaller but several of my interests are represented and … perhaps… it’s a more transparent and sensible moderation model?

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[-] Contramuffin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

Left Reddit after the API debacle a few years back. Still lurk occasionally for niche things, but overall pretty satisfied with Lemmy as a replacement. It's a lot more human, I feel. Similar to old Reddit, before it went to shit.

There's a lot of leftist infighting around here - I would personally recommend you not get too involved. The big one seems to be lemmy.world vs. lemmy.ml

[-] WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

I purposely nuked my account after the API fiasco by hugely shit talking a particularly awful moderator, which was fucking awesome. Same story though, got banned, no message, but I was unable to appeal. Never looked back. I was never attached to my points because what the fuck does that matter anyhow. Lemmy is way better after you get used to it. Have fun. Fuck Reddit.

[-] YoSoySnekBoi@kbin.earth 13 points 3 hours ago

Welcome to the Fediverse!

I will say, just like Reddit, we have our share of insane mods, but nobody can get banned platform-wide b/c they can just join a federated instance if their instance owner kicks them out (this is both a positive and a negative; community mods are under a lot more pressure to prevent illegal stuff on a per-comm basis than on Reddit).

Modlogs are public, so you'll never really not know why something got removed and by whom, even if you disagree with their decision.

I left Reddit when they killed 3rd-party apps, so I never got to experience the wonderful censorship of today's Reddit experience. Having been here now a couple years, this place feels a lot more human to me, despite (or maybe due to?) it being a lot smaller. I like it here better tbh and I hope you will too. The more the merrier!

I recommend checking out !trendingcommunities@lemmy.cafe if you're looking for active communities, since they can be a bit harder to find than on Reddit. Also, don't forget to block the .ml instances, they're filled with tankies (unless you want that on your feed ig lol).

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 16 points 4 hours ago

Welcome.

You're going to go through a bit of a withdrawal, but you can still lurk there. I quit cold turkey, didn't lurk so I would be tempted, and wasn't banned yet. I'm sure I would have been.

I recommend that if your all page gets light or seems inactive, play with the settings. I keep it on hot and then check active, top 6 hours, and scaled in that order. Active is really about how active the comment is, so it stays pretty consistent.

This is a much better place if you're not conservative. We do have some bots and trolls, but they're not a ton. They tend to do weekends. If you feel like someone is picking on you, that's them. Just leave one comment at most, downvote and move on. Just like on reddit.

[-] Makeshift@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Welcome to the Fediverse!

Good to see you found your interests here! One of the most common complaints is the lack of whatever niche someone is looking for. So it sounds like you got lucky!

I'm another that fled when they killed 3rd party apps, and.lied about devs to demonize them in the process. Never swappedoff of old reddit on my PC, Had been spending half of my reddit time on mobile, refused to install their shitty adware app on my phone.

Spent less and less time on it on PC, eventually accidentally did something on my browser that disabled the 'reply' button even on old reddit, took it as a sign.

Old account, same Karma style. No farming, just decent wordsmithing while writing my comments. Enough to know my general comments would be positive, without sacrificing what I wanted to say. (And to know when to go all-out on something unpopular enough that no careful words would stop the downvotes)

You will find a different culture here. I've certainly gotten dome comments upvoted that I was SURE would go negative. If you notice posts/people that bother you are primarily from one instance, you can block that whole instance from your feed. We even have a lil community specificly for complaining about power-tripping mods at !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com if you feel any here could use some name 'n shame!

[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago

If you have not been posting racist/misogynist/homophobic drivel, threats, obscenities, scams etc — and yet you suddenly got axed for no clear and explicit reason, then we’re in the same boat. Are there any theories about why/how this happens? Is this the malice of specific humans, or some kind of automodding gone badly wrong?

Yep, happened to me, no clear reason given so can only speculate. I think probably they have new automod systems.

[-] Kirk@startrek.website 22 points 4 hours ago

Lemmy moderation is heavily instance-dependent. Some are more strict than reddit, and others less. You are on Lemmy.world which is moderated with a pretty light touch, so you'll probably be happy :)

[-] DCinBC@lemmy.world 10 points 4 hours ago

I actually don’t mind fairly strict moderation, as I’m not a big fan of insults, rudeness, racial/sexual slurs, etc and am quite happy to live without them. But I don’t like mysterious bans with nonsensical “explanations” such as I just experienced. If I’m gonna get a ban I want to see my own words quoted back at me, with an explanation of how they violated policy. It’s a fair cop if I did in fact break the rules for the sub or the site. But telling me my “other account(s)” are breaking rules, when I have no fkn other accounts, is just infuriating.

[-] gibmiser@lemmy.world 12 points 4 hours ago

Well, you might get that, you might not. Point is if you get treated poorly just hop to a new instance

[-] michael@piefed.chrisco.me 1 points 1 hour ago

Or make your own. We are pretty flexable.

[-] foodandart@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 hours ago

Going through your post, it occurs to me that you, like many others - myself included - are being banned after a set amount of content is generated. This ALL seems a bit as if we are used to create conversational content which they are training AI with and then they get to a point with what we have said and have posted and it's "hup-ho.. time to go.." and we get banned for utter baloney reasons with zero recourse.

The oddest thing for me, is I've still got my account, it's still logged in on a few of my browsers, and a few weeks ago, I got a reply to a comment I made FIVE years ago. It was in my inbox. So I just hit the context link, found the comment and deleted it.

I would have taken my 15 years of comments if they hadn't shut that ability down last year, so I'm a bit baffled by how someone found the post I made the comment on, in the first place. It's all but impossible to get at posts that are older than a year.. and the comments within.. Forget it.

Was it some AI test to check on the account? Dunno. Am not letting it go and will sail through every few weeks to see if more new replies have come in.

It's going to be my pet project, for certain.

[-] hesh@quokk.au 10 points 4 hours ago

Welcome and I hope you feel the freedom of not caring about those fake internet points anymore.

[-] DCinBC@lemmy.world 11 points 4 hours ago

Yeah, Reddit was getting pretty bad for attempted gamification — “congratulations, you’re on a 13 day posting streak! Keep it up!” And so on. Very insulting to the intelligence.

I did rather like awards until they were taken away. It was nice to be able to give something (even of only virtual value) to someone whose post or comment I really appreciated. And it was nice to get that kind of appreciation in return if I wrote something that was helpful or enlightening to someone else.

But the whole karma score thing… very leaderboardish.

[-] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago

Points aren’t tallied here. Someone can have an absolutely shit take that doesn’t haunt them indefinitely.

Don’t get attached to the numbers.

[-] YoSoySnekBoi@kbin.earth 3 points 3 hours ago

Depends on the platform - some federated instances (e.g. mine, Mbin) keep a tally of a user's total upvotes minus downvotes as an overall "reputation" score

[-] bluGill@fedia.io 1 points 1 hour ago

Unfortunately downvote is the standard response to 'i disagree to this insightful comment'. They really should just track total votes as a 'this is how important others feel your coment is'. There is value in downvote for 'not bad enough for a reasonable mod to delete but still bad'. (.ml is not a reasonable mod - they delete anything)

[-] MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca 2 points 3 hours ago

it’s a more transparent and sensible moderation model?

Certainly more transparent with the modlog though, depending on the domain etc you might come across some interesting moderation (.ml is hilarious for this stuff.)

Regardless, welcome to the fediverse, hope it tickles your fancy!

[-] palordrolap@fedia.io 3 points 3 hours ago

You don't happen to use a VPN service, do you?

I wouldn't be surprised if a bunch of accounts have been using the same exit node as you, and since you all have the same IP address, you must all clearly be the same person running multiple accounts.

Alternatively, you're on an ISP with a non-fixed IP address and during the various rotations you've at some point had an IP address that was - previously or subsequently - leased by someone who did something against Reddit TOS. Again, clearly, there is absolutely no way you could possibly be different people and so all of those accounts must be banned.

Alternatively, alternatively, someone took exception to what you said, went on a power trip, booted you and, when asked for an explanation, pulled the first excuse off the pile, valid or not.

Annnyway. Welcome to the Fediverse.

[-] DCinBC@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I do not use VPN. I am a subscriber to CityWest fibre optic net in BC, and I don’t know for sure if my contract includes a distinct IP address. Your theory about randomly getting an IP address that has been used previously for naughty stuff on Reddit seems plausible. I have no idea how I would verify it.

It seems odd that any top-level, site-wide mod would take personal offence at one particular post from one particular user out of however many million on Reddit. You would think they would have bigger fish to fry and fires to put out, if you’ll forgive an unfortunately mixed metaphor.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago

8 years

660k karma

Oh you sweet bairn

[-] West_of_West@piefed.social 2 points 3 hours ago

Sounds like my reddit story. I was banned for a week for inciting violence. It was a joke about hurrting people who abuse animals, it was a traditional internet joke, so that was a bit fo a surprise, but sure I get the rationale.

I got perma banned, also, for inciting violence. What was this violence you might ask? I said that I was worried that the Trump regime was going to start going after gay people.

So fuck reddit. I migrated to Piefed and Discuit. Between the two of them I'm satisfied.

[-] ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

I “promoted violence” when someone asked if a prisoner has served their life sentence after being resuscitated, by answering “you have to be irrevocably dead”

[-] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Me too, although I was more of a jerk than you.

Once I was barraged with "He Gets Us" ads and constant daily Indian sub recommendations I became surly and started talking back to mods, too sassy. Banned for life.

I survived almost as long as you, with just a few thousand karma. They didn't think I was very funny or clever. Thank God.

[-] sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today 2 points 3 hours ago

Similar here. Told someone who was justifying Israel bombing schools and hospitals that I hoped they had nightmares of those children dying for the rest of their pathetic life.

I’m kinda proud of that one getting me perma banned, ngl.

[-] mrmaplebar@fedia.io 2 points 3 hours ago

Welcome. Also got permabanned from Reddit somewhat recently after 10+ years, seemingly just for talking shit about Trump and the AI bullshit, so I can relate. 😂 They seem very ban-heavy these days and they even go out of their way to prevent you from making a new account. It's wild.

But overall it's pretty great here and Reddit did me a favor by breaking my last addiction to corporate social media.

[-] DCinBC@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

The interesting thing of course is that if this thing is systematic — if Reddit is doing sitewide permabans on users who talk sh*t about the present US regime, because Spez is running scared like the other techbros — it’s unlikely to become a news story because none of those people will be able to come back to a Reddit group to discuss what happened to them. I do seem to detect a bit of a pattern in the responses thus far to my maiden post (and subsequent comments on other ban stories), a pattern that would be newsworthy if it is real :-). but since Reddit is one of the prime aggregators of internet news and trends, it’s unlikely to get any attention since we are all banned from Reddit. Bluesky is not topic oriented, afaik — it’s person-oriented. I have not yet checked out piefed.

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