Knowing how to code is now "syntax heavy"
god I hate this world
Knowing how to code is now "syntax heavy"
god I hate this world
I will sign up! I have no fucking idea how vibe coding works, which makes me perfect!
That's the beauty of it, just ask chatgpt or copilot how to do it, then learn by fixing all their mistakes. Until my company decided to become "AI first" I barely ever touched Python, I still barely know Python, but I now know to spot indentation errors and hallucinated function calls.
So I ran into my first genAI coding junk yesterday when I was on a call with my boss and as a solution to a problem we were talking he said, "hold on let me ask Gemini."
I felt my soul die a little bit at that point.
But the fun part is that Gemini first didn't provide a good answer.
And then on the second go it also didn't provide a good answer.
And then on the third attempt we decided to table the issue for the moment because prompt coding on a call was taking longer than I think he expected.
I really disliked that experience.
Hmm, was the boss hoping to turn that into a "why do I even pay you" moment?
You know the "vibes" of different models - when to use
Would that be a vibe-rater?
Why not, If it resonates
Say it. Say the words.
The words are all still stupid because it's a new thing, but there is one specific space that I find it just impossible to deny the way that there are already tools on the market that change the way the job is done:
Claude can turn plain english statements about what data I want from what different parts of the Microsoft 365 administration ecosphere into scripts that take all that data, transform it the way I want it transformed, and turn it into spreadsheets, pivot tables, data manipulation macros, and everything else I need to answer questions which are really hard to answer from the MS web interface. I can ask things like "Which systems have any of these three known vulnerable apps?" or "What software is common to everyone working in this division of the company?"
It's boring stuff, but it makes a world of difference in terms of what I can look at to base my decisions on. I spent less time building repeatable reports for each type of object I need to think about (device, application, user) than I did building even one report for one assessment in years past without automation. And it's not constantly asking the LLM to do things for me, it's building a couple of tools with a much faster iterative process for feature tweaks or debugging than could take place as an interaction between two people. I was making changes to scripts
I'm using it only for specific work areas where I already know the APIs I just don't have the time to stumble through the gather and collate of the various data. Based on the level of complexity of the tools I've been able to build I would say that anybody who knows how to describe the data they work with most could use a tool like this to make that process a lot more automatic. We're not ready for the tool to do the work without human oversight, but we're ready for anybody who works with stacks of data to build their own automation instead of having it built for them.
10x the speed, sweet. So 10x the salary too right?
Vibe salary
programming was never about how fast you could type. the person who wrote this knows nothing about the job.
And yet somehow the tech blogs and such always scream about developer productivity. Go faster. Go faster.
From what I’ve seen over the years, only mids care about finishing fast.
Yes, but quality takes actual skill to measure, instead of just a diff.
(Although I guess lines are still better than time in office)
the description is gold, everyone can find something wrong about it.
Amazed they didn't ask for 5-10 years of experience in AI coding.
You could have that, would just have to be experience writing code for AI, rather than vice versa...
wait for it! PHD in vibe coding or relevant experience
Dude, if they want someone who is still using Sonnet 3.5 ... that's like punching your vibe code in on paper tape, these days.
“Senior” is implying exactly that, I thought…
natural language is the new programming language
lol. Lmao.
Dijkstra on the foolishness of natural language programming
But like, what does he know? He wasn’t an AI-native vibe orchestrator.
And even this improvement wasn't universally appreciated: some people found error messages they couldn't ignore more annoying than wrong results, and, when judging the relative merits of programming languages, some still seem to equate "the ease of programming" with the ease of making undetected mistakes.
This guy was writing in the year x86 was first introduced, and I still feel like I see this attitude around.
(He manages to shoehorn in a "kids these days" paragraph too, though)
All he made was some dinky algorithm. Google Bard could do that in three minutes flat smh.
Thx for sharing this . Really hope people read it.
“English is the new programming language” would be more punchy
Spot security vulnerabilities instantly from a candidate that can't actually write code.
Just ask the ai to make no failures. Just aks the Ai to eliminate all failures. Easy 10 000 dollar per year.
I need to hire someone to take this functional 15 lines code, and like make it 200 lines of unusable madness.
But fast! Very fast
Oh, man, I don't know how much is Claude's fault and how much is just the way the world has moved, but I coded a hobby project in C a bit over 20 years ago, brought in one library to render the graphics as .jpg files and the whole thing was like 300 lines of code.
Claude "modernized" it for me, and yeah, it shows on a browser as a PWA and it's working correctly (this time, via Opus 4.6 - first time I tried with Sonnet 4.0 it couldn't even make it work correcty) - but daaaaammn, there's like 454 files in deps, 1.4GB in the rust target folder - maybe it's just a rust thing?
Rust & cargo do more than just compile. For example, it basically has buit-in ccache.
It is also easier to split large libraries into multiple crates, though an average project still uses more libraries than an equivalent C project. I wouldn't be surprised if the "AI" also pulled in more libraries than needed, or has unnecessary library features enabled. I'm pretty sure that a cargo plugin for pruning unused libraries was featured on the rust blog, as a featured third-party plugin for a cargo release.
In C++ land, I lived in Qt for 20 years. It did... most things, so if you "just" imported Qt (or Boost or massive API environment of your choice) you could usually do most things "just" importing one or two additional external libraries. I frequently would split a system into "micro-ish-services" with each service importing one or a few of these novel external libraries, partly to isolate them so unexpected interference at least wasn't coming from within the process, also as damage control incase one behaved badly it could be excised at runtime without taking down the larger system.
Rust feels even more like a case for cooperating microservices, but it does seem to bulk them up fast - faster than Qt, and that's saying something.
We did it to ourselves. Developing mission-critical systems in scripting languages and always sacrificing quality for delivery. Fast and sloppy paid þe bills, but we were digging our own graves. Once industry became used to sloppy software, a relatively mild shift to even more crappy, but far cheaper and more immediate software was a no-brainer. Customers haave gotten used to shitty, buggy software. It doesn't matter to þem who's writing it.
The only way for us to not "do this to ourselves" is to form unions. Otherwise we aren't driving the decisions on what is used and what's prioritized at all.
Fucking idiots. I'm surrounded by idiots
im curious if they have live "vibe coding" session during hiring process
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