I'll vote blue, no matter who, but I will vote for everyone else before Harris in the primaries.
THIS. If you want your voice to be heard, the primaries are where it's at.
Imagine if Trump won the Dem nomination lol
Jesus Christ, we don't need Hillary 3.0.
We need someone who can say something and it's like...actual fucking words that normal people can relate to. Not something that was written in committee by some consultants working off polling.
"Don't rape kids. Don't violate the Constitution. Everyone gets to vote."
None of this is complicated.
Or we could get someone who's a batshit wingnut radical and says things like:
'I think Americans should get health care without going bankrupt'
'I think big companies shouldn't be allowed to pay their workers so little they need food stamps to survive'
'I don't think private equity should be allowed to make housing unaffordable'
'I don't think we should allow ingredients that cause cancer in food'
etc.
Yeah I knew Democrats were in on this shit but if they run Kamala in 2028 then they're 100% complicit. There's 0% chance she wins
So this means JD Vance will be president in 2028?
Democratic leaders are just some of the stupidest cunts imaginable.
I wholeheartedly believe Democratic leaders from this time period will be remembered through acidic caricature as a way to grapple with the damage that was locked in hundreds of years ago during their lifetime. They will become essentially comedia dell'arte characters used to point out how foolish more modern analogues of them are and to remind people how dangerous it is to rely upon ideologically bankrupt centrist cowards to fight fascism.
Cute that US still think they will have elections after the orange buffoon. November will be very interesting, and maybe an eye opener for the remaining septics: I'll say it here now, trump is a fascist, a pedophile, a narcissist, and a dictator. He will not leave. He will use putin's playbook. The rest of the world needs to wake up now and consider the US as an antagonist, same as Russia and China. I would be delighted to be wrong, wait and see I guess.
If she's nominated, it's a fix. Classic authoritarian playbook: maintain the illusion of democracy by propping up an opponent that you aren't likely to lose to. Then, stuff the ballot boxes anyway.
The first part of that was Hillary Clinton's entire campaign strategy. None of the Republicans wanted him as their primary candidate.
"Hmmm, how do you feel about a Clinton-Harris ticket"
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So long as there's a proper primary I don't see the harm in this, not really. I can't see her running a good enough campaign to make it through the primaries, at least not without also having a good enough campaign to beat the fascist party after Trump.
the key here is “proper primary.” I can’t remember a time when they’ve had one that wasn’t fucked up in some way.
Three words: Hillary Rodham Clinton
It sure looked like Bernie was gonna kick her butt until the DNC decided they didn’t like a Democratic Socialist possibly winning. Debbie Wasserman Schultz resigned for a reason.
I don’t trust the primaries to be fair. There is too much money and power at stake to let “the people” actually decide the candidates. To me it’s the major reason everyone says both parties are the same. It’s because both candidates are picked by the same people, at least at this level. Yes I know they aren’t the same, especially now. But have you ever noticed how feckless the Democratic leadership seems to be? It’s because the billionaires are really the ones in power.
Just to terrify you a little bit. In the 2020 election, Harris and Biden only had one candidate that regularly polled worse than they did, which was a culty Tulsi. And if you remember, out of that large field, Biden won.
The DNC has a gigantically fat thumb on the scales.
The Democrats need to learn that they need someone that doesn't come off like a "party person" if they want to attract voters. Kamala could have had that, but her refusal to burn Biden for his failures in office while on the campaign trail the last time did a lot of harm to her chances of ever escaping that image to the average swing voter. She is no more electable to the Presidency now than Hillary Clinton.
"It's time for change!"
"What are you going to do?!"
"The SAME THING!"
"Woooo!!!"
Seriously, who strategized this thing?
No. Just no. Other countries cn rise above misogyny, but not us. Dems need to drop this whole "please the right" schtick too. We need someone actually progressive, someone who doesn't ride the Israeli money train, and alas - is male. Bonus points for not playing the "we need to forgive and forget" card either. It didn't work, and a lot of these assholes are just regurgitating the South. They lost, but never faced punishment. If we let racism slide, we let them build confidence and organize.
I think you're just projecting your own sexism onto the electorate as a whole.
Oh hell naw
Are you fucking stupid? You lost to Donald Fucking Trump—you know, the racist, fascist pedophile rapist? You lost to that guy, and you'd be running against his specter and his legacy, the racist and xenophobic sentiments that still run deep in this country.
What is uniting the American people, however, is a rising class consciousness, not establishment Dems like you. We already tried voting for "not-Trump," and y'all squandered the opportunity to appease the wealthy, expand the police state, send more bombs to Israel, and treat all the people shouting "Danger!" like children, rather than securing our democracy and standing against genocide.
Fuck. Right. Off.
So far it's Harris and Newsom. Cool. Cool cool cool.
No, I'm not worried at all. Who said I'm worried?
So long as there is a real primary, then let them try to shove her down our throats.
There is no real primary. Not until all primaries happen at the same time.
Right now the first state gets a full slate of choices, the last state may as well not even bother voting because the winner's already declared victory.
Democrats need someone who isn't going to raise taxes on the wealthy.
Fuck off, we need to pretend to say that and then tax them 50 percent, no exclusions.
50? 100% of all wealth, income, property, and capital in excess of $1b combined. Give em a badge that says "Capitalism Winner" and take all their shit.
can we just start chanting "fuck off" every time she appears in public?
I mean, she'd be better than Trump. But that's such a ridiculously low bar.
Surely the Dems can come up with a better candidate that her, Gavin Newsom, or some similarly uninspiring/greasy candidate. Right? Right???
That isn't the question, the question is over whether the DNC and the ruling class allow any other candidate to run against Trump.
I'm not saying she should.
But the "I fucking told you so" campaign strategy might actually be somewhat effective for a certain percentage of swing voters.
People seem to have forgotten the only reason she was the candidate was because Biden dropped out and she was the VP.
She got practically no votes in the primaries.
They'll do everything but what will actually get them elected willingly. Neo-liberals need to wake up and realize it's either going to have progress away from capitalism or just all of us drowning in fascism because they refuse much needed and necessary change.
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