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[-] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 150 points 5 days ago

I think if any other (smaller) site were continually posting CSAM without moderation, it would be banned. What's different about X? The fact that Elon Musk runs it and he's in with a powerful dictator?

At some point you have to admit the CSAM is not the problem, it's the person running it, whether they have the power to stop you/fight back or not.

[-] fernandofig@reddthat.com 27 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

What's different about X?

Well, you kind of said it yourself: The fact that, since it's sadly still one of the largest social outlets, there's a whole economy around it. If Europe banned X tomorrow, a lot of people and companies would take a non-negligible hit to their revenue. We can argue that probably these people are not a majority of the other half of people in Europe that don't want X gone, but in the end, politicians and lawmakers care about money and (in a very distant second place) what the majority of their constituents say.

[-] pycorax@sh.itjust.works 18 points 5 days ago

I wonder how feasible it would be if they'd announce a deadline whereby it would be blocked and recommend people and business to move onto a federated alternative.

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[-] IratePirate@feddit.org 9 points 5 days ago

If Europe banned X tomorrow, a lot of people and companies would take a non-negligible hit to their revenue.

Care to back up that claim? What exactly is Twitter's contribution to their bottom line that they cannot live without?

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not just banned, but there would be criminal charges brought on the owners.

Musk should be prosecuted for distribution of CSAM.

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[-] Almacca@aussie.zone 27 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Shouldn't they want it banned because it already broke the law? How many lines have to be crossed before anyone does anything?

Anarchism for the rich(law does not affect them), rugged police state for the poor,

[-] BigJohnnyHines@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 days ago

I’m not clicking the link to read this but these sort of headlines are often a result of their survey intentionally wording things like this to spin the narrative. Anyone who does in fact want it banned immediately would still say yes to the question. I’d suspect there are many such folks across Europe.

[-] projektilski@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 4 days ago

I want it banned regardless :D

[-] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 23 points 4 days ago

100% of this European want X banned without further ado.

[-] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 5 points 4 days ago

~~Yesterday~~the moment the sink carrying cancer walked in.

[-] DandomRude@piefed.social 59 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Yes, it is unfortunately becoming increasingly clear that even in the EU, billionaires and their companies are above the law. The legal situation should be clear here and there should be consequences - but there apparently aren't any.

Unfortunately, this applies not only to Twitter, but to most US tech giants in particular, to meta, for example. I have already stopped counting the massive violations of the GDPR that meta and others are constantly committing, because nothing happens anyway. If anything, the fines are so low that violating the law brings these companies far more revenue than it costs them.

So unfortunately, the same major issue that brought the US to the brink of a straight up dictatorship also applies in Europe: even the most blatant violations of the law have no serious consequences for the richest of the rich – and that is why billionaires are becoming more and more powerful.

The situation may be better in the EU for now than in the US, whose legal system obviously no longer even maintains the appearance of fairness, but even in the EU, the enforcement of the law is miles away from anything that could even remotely be called justice.

The reason seems to me to be the same as in the US: concentration of power in a tiny billionaire class that asserts its influence through corruption.

I think that if things continue like this, and I see no indicators that they will not, it will not be long before even the appearance of justice is abandoned in the EU as well.

Edit: Here is an example of how this is possible - it's just plain old corruption, but in the highest ranks of our institutions: From Meta to the EU Parliament: Former chief lobbyist negotiates data protection (German article)

Aura Salla was Meta's chief lobbyist in Brussels for many years. Her task: to convince politicians to weaken EU digital rules such as data protection in order to generate even higher profits with Facebook, WhatsApp, and other platforms.

[-] Prikkeres@feddit.nl 24 points 4 days ago

And ban Facebook too. It’s been breaking the law a lot longer!

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[-] reksas@sopuli.xyz 21 points 4 days ago

i want it banned even if it doesnt

[-] gwl 20 points 5 days ago
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[-] gressen@lemmy.zip 30 points 5 days ago

How about we just fine them to oblivion and make the people responsible answer for their crimes?

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[-] lithiumground@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

I think all USA/Israel social media application must be banned.

[-] GameOverFlow@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 days ago

What is a Israel sozial media application?

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[-] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 20 points 5 days ago

I don't like the idea of "banning" users from accessing a website. But I am certainly in favor of banning sovereign companies from doing business with the company that owns a website, and seizing any physical assets that the website company owns within the laws reach.

[-] roserose56@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 days ago

Ban it, do it, we are not gonna cry!

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[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 22 points 5 days ago

Weird to be that low for "continues to break the law."

They'll immediately ban "from the river to the sea" and prosecute everyone who says/displays it. but a multinational corporation is just allowed to break the law and maybe the politicians will at some point allowed them to face the law.

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[-] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 5 days ago

More than half are ok with any company breaking the law?

[-] nao@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 days ago

According to a new YouGov survey, a vast majority of respondents in Germany, France, Spain, Italy and Poland (60-78%) think that the EU should take further action against X if it does not address breaches to European law brought forward by the Commission last year [1]. The majority of those (62%-73%) who wanted further action – and 47% of total participants – want X to be banned from the EU if it refuses to address these breaches [2]

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[-] northernlights@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago

So more than half said it should continue to be allowed if it kept breaking the law? That sounds so very made up. Plus how do you survey "Europe" exactly?

[-] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 23 points 5 days ago

I'd rather not see a great firewall of Europe.

I'd be happy to see them banned from doing business here though. Hit them where it hurts, their money.

[-] Scrollone@feddit.it 13 points 5 days ago

Yes, I wish they would ban Tesla cars in Europe. That would be amazing.

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[-] Didntdoit71@feddit.online 16 points 5 days ago

I say that, in order to save the species, ban all social media, everywhere.

but lemmy :(

[-] lastlybutfirstly@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

You might not realize it, but the Fediverse is social media so a ban would be rather detrimental to this place.

[-] Soggy@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

Damn near the entire internet is "social media" but people usually mean "social networking sites".

[-] sveltecider@lemmy.ca 11 points 4 days ago

I want it banned here too.

[-] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 4 days ago

banning this website would be super good for Blue sky and mastodon

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[-] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

If X fails to respond to the Commission’s fine, 70% of respondents were supportive of repercussions [3]. Among those, between 17-28% think that further fines should be given to X, between 23-29% believe X should be banned, and the largest segment - between 40-52% of those in favour of repercussions - believe that the Commission should fine and ban the social media service entirely from the EU [4].

[-] Mwa@thelemmy.club 6 points 4 days ago

i wish this was worldwide

[-] modus@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago

People know you can just not use it, right?

[-] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 25 points 5 days ago

This is exactly why I'm against any regulation of any kind. Its up to the consumer to make those choices. Say if a baby food company put deadly amounts of arsenic in their food. That's those dead babies fault for not exercising their power as consumers. A bank steals all the money the customers put in? Shouldn't have picked that bank, tough luck. Buy life saving medicine from a pharmaceutical company and they send you sugar pills? Your fault.

Companies don't commit crimes and are never liable for them. Its on the people who choose to use them. Couldn't agree with you more. Well said.

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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 12 points 5 days ago

Sure, but I don't really want to share a reality with people who do.

It's making them not right.

[-] Kacarott@aussie.zone 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I mean, I'm aware I can simply not murder people, but I still want murdering people to be banned. (Admittedly this is a false equivalence but the point stands)

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[-] Pika@sh.itjust.works 13 points 5 days ago

I would like to know the percentage between if they break the law and regardless if they break the law

[-] arch@programming.dev 7 points 4 days ago

Ditch it.It will have 0 to none effect of EU. And Mr.NaciSalute won't get broke.Mastodon is the way.

[-] derpgon@programming.dev 10 points 4 days ago

I think you are mistaken. It will have a huge positive impact on the EU.

[-] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 11 points 5 days ago

Nearly half? Sheesh.

Maybe it's because most Europeans don't have a strong opinion about X. I really don't think it's quite as popular here as in the USA. Which is also the reason many don't know how unhinged the current admin is.

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