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Last year the U.S. experienced something that hasn’t definitively occurred since the Great Depression: More people moved out than moved in. The Trump administration has hailed the exodus—negative net migration—as the fulfillment of its promise to ramp up deportations and restrict new visas. Beneath the stormy optics of that immigration crackdown, however, lies a less-noticed reversal: America’s own citizens are leaving in record numbers, replanting themselves and their families in lands they find more affordable and safe.

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[-] menas@lemmy.wtf 8 points 10 hours ago

No borders but damn, you have to support your local antifa if you have left your fellows alone

[-] pirate2377@lemmy.zip 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Where would I go if I migrated away? Most of the world is falling into authoritarianism as the child protection laws and the attempts to effectively ban OpenPGP encryption have proven. Not only that, most of us Americans only know English and a bit of Spanish (if even that).

So, even if I moved away and abandoned my friends and family to face the fascist wolves without me, then I'd only be delaying the inevitable. I'd only encourage you to move away if you're trans, but otherwise we must hold the line here no matter how tempting it is to move away from it.

[-] fodor@lemmy.zip 2 points 7 hours ago

Most of the world? No. You just need to do more research. But yes, moving abroad is hard and offersno guarantees.

[-] pirate2377@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 hours ago

"Most of the world" was a little hyperbolic admittedly

[-] whelk@retrolemmy.com 10 points 14 hours ago

Why should I leave? They're the ones who suck

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

Same reason conservatives don't want conservative women.

They don't want something that fits their interests and opinions.

They want to beat and conquer something that thinks differently from them, and mold them into something that is subservient to their interest and opinions.

[-] NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca 14 points 18 hours ago

Does this number reflect only people who left by choice, or does it also include those who have been deported? The composition of this group would be interesting to see.

[-] 7101334@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

Trump has deported fewer people than Biden (I think? Definitely fewer than Obama) so, even if it did include people being deported, it still wouldn't change the takeaway as far as I can see: Americans are willingly getting the fuck out in record numbers.

Unless you're focusing on the "all the way back to the Great Depression" part more than recent history.

Also mandatory "fuck Donald Trump" disclaimer, my point isn't that he's better than Biden or Obama. If anything my point is that they're all the same where it counts.

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 hours ago

Trump has deported fewer people than Biden

I don't think we know those numbers, and may never know. He's disappearing people to other countries without tracking them. Why do you think this is true?

[-] 7101334@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Trump hides the numbers because they're short of his stated goal of 1 million deportations per year or whatever. Part of the reason he's deporting fewer people, despite plainly more aggressive / unhinged tactics, is because fewer people are coming into the US because both of them made it more of a shithole. Why do you think he wouldn't put his name on something "huge" and "bigger than Biden" if he could?

[-] lithiumground@lemmy.world 11 points 17 hours ago

If ı would get a job offer with 100k$ ,I would still not consider on USA

[-] graycloud@leminal.space 9 points 17 hours ago

100k isn't that much money over here.

[-] Sunflier@lemmy.world 8 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

100k USD is barely anything in a big city.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 30 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

A recent bill in Canada restored Canadian citizenship to thousands of people living abroad. I'm helping my friend move to Canada and giving her a place to live after she claims her citizenship. After she stays here three years, all her children get the same opportunity to claim citizenship. Am I operating an Underground Railroad?!

[-] Vupware@lemmy.zip 14 points 21 hours ago

I feel people tend to forget that Canada almost voted in a Trump clone.

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 9 points 17 hours ago

Ontario is governed by a Trump clone, as is Alberta.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 6 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Like, things can be bad in different ways. It's not meaningful to describe every corrupt politician as a Trump clone, Trump didn't invent sucking, and his form of suck is pretty unique.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 6 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Oh, we've commonly elected people just as evil as Trump. So have the Americans. Just not as stupid. Meanwhile, we threw away our pretense of "rule of law" at the Toronto G20 in 2010 just so Harper could impress China, and no following government ever did a damn thing about it.

But if you're talking about the last election, it was not even close, there was no "almost" about it.

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 17 hours ago

Doug Ford is far dumber than Trump.

[-] TheMinister@sh.itjust.works 8 points 17 hours ago

Man how you guys leaving? I’d love to leave

[-] mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 points 10 hours ago

emigrated to Spain in 23, took a remote job and was able to finangle a visa through their DNV

[-] 7101334@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

Many Americans are, ironically, moving to Mexico.

And often (but of course not always) bringing gentrification and white supremacy bullshit with them.

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

American “Digital Nomads” Swarm Mexico City, Angering Locals | The Daily Show

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=km4QYxOlJgM

[-] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 hours ago

You must be kidding.

[-] 0x0@lemmy.zip 33 points 1 day ago

Rich muricans are leaving the US, most can barely leave the state.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

MASSIVE EXODUS!

single digit change in migration patterns

It's pure hysterical clickbait. The far more newsworthy headline would be about people declining to immigrate to the US, as the Feds add more and more foreign nations to its shit list. Very obvious that Trump (by way of Steven Miller) wants the US to be Whites Only.

But they idea that people are leaving in droves requires you to believe that's a viable option for anyone.

[-] bridgeburner@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago

Why would the rich leave? Don't they benefit from Trumps policies like tax breaks and stuff? Or do you just mean the moderately 'normal' rich people with 'only' 6-figure incomes?

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Why would the rich leave?

Because they can afford to escape the bedlam. Nobody wants to be in Minneapolis right now. Nevermind LA, Portland, or Charlotte.

If you've got enough money to put up in a hotel for a month or friendly relatives in another state to crash with, it sounds far preferable to dealing with ICE agents clogging your streets and ramming your car. Doubly so if you're living in the US on a temporary or revocable permit. Who is holding a Student Visa or Green Card that feels safe in any of these cities right now? They're snatching neuroscience students out of Columbia University student dorms, ffs.

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[-] Casterial@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

I think my plan B if I get laid off is to cash out everything and flee. Not too sure where, but I don't have a lot of hope with the current administration or job market.

[-] LoremIpsumGenerator@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Dislikes immigrants, and now emigrating. Lol

[-] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 9 points 23 hours ago

That's why they call themselves "expats"

Rich + White = "Expat"

Otherwise you're an immigrant

[-] Redvenom@retrolemmy.com 18 points 1 day ago

Americans are immigrating to other countries, they just like to call themselves X-Pats® because they think immigrant is a dirty word

[-] mattvanlaw@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago

Many said people are moving to avoid this type of narrow minded perspective from others in the US.... Educated folks know anti-immigration is a tactic of emotional control by the ruling class.

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