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“Our nation’s institutions have been shaken. Our alliances have been strained. Our credibility has been damaged. And our nation’s values have been cast aside,” Hertling said. He suggested the U.S. should look to the reconstruction of Germany after the defeat of Nazism if it hoped to to restore the damage caused by Trump and his allies.

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[-] daychilde@lemmy.world 47 points 3 months ago

NATIONAL HARBOR, Md. (AP) — Over and over, the Republicans and former Republicans who gathered just outside Washington this weekend warned that President Donald Trump and his allies in Congress are tearing at the very fabric of American democracy.

Really don't fucking want to hear it after Republicans have been working their asses off to get us to this point for the past 30+ years. Republicans can fuck ALL the way off. The Overton window in the US was already stupid 30 years ago and it's just gotten worse. "Centrists" are either politically ignorant of what they actually support, or are essentially fascists who want to fuck liberal women.

Sure, they want to disassociate themselves from the fascists? I'm not even sure I believe them, but why now and not 15-20-25+ years ago? No, you fuckheads wanted to play the games and ride the coattails of fascism to power. So you can fuck off.

.........I might be a bit passionate about this topic. lol

[-] GalacticSushi@piefed.blahaj.zone 34 points 3 months ago

Trump is the republican party now whether you like it or not. Never Trump Republican is an oxymoron. If you're a never Trump "republican" you really need to just switch parties at this point, otherwise you're just a drop of dirty water in an ocean of piss.

[-] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 months ago

Especially with the Democrats adopting even the worst of the pre-Trump Republicans. Does anyone seriously have fundamental ideological differences with Donald Trump, Kamala Harris, and Dick Cheney without being a leftist?

[-] hector@lemmy.today 3 points 3 months ago

But for every voter they lose in the city playing to the rich and connected's interests, they will pick up two nazis in the suburbs! Any election now it's going to work. /s

[-] TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca 32 points 3 months ago

If you would still consider yourself Republican at this point. I assume you want to be part of the problem more than the solution

[-] pet1t@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Can't expect a lifelong republican to turn democrat all of a sudden, tho. There's still a lot of nuance on both sides, but there's only two sides to choose from.

Man am I glad at times l like these to have like 17 parties to choose from in my country.

[-] Triumph@fedia.io 8 points 3 months ago

It's been at least ten years.

[-] TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca 5 points 3 months ago
[-] Reygle@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

I was thinking the same thing- I think it was in fight club? "Now, you see- that's exactly what I expect".

[-] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 3 months ago

No I'm actually done listening to Republicans and their bullshit.

[-] 6stringringer@lemmy.zip 12 points 3 months ago

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[-] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 8 points 3 months ago

They've been doing it all the way since the Trump 2.0 election.

Liberals have been doing it since Trump itself.

Project 2025 was pretty much out there.

Epstein files are literally a guide book of who is covering things up.

[-] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

How is Chris Christie never Trump? He endorsed him?

[-] Carmakazi@piefed.social 8 points 3 months ago

He called Trump a lunatic unfit for office (I forget his actual words) while he was running his presidential campaign, then gave his full-throated endorsement with a smile once he dropped out, hoping to get a good position in the Trump 2016 administration. He got a bullshit job "handling" the opiate crisis.

[-] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago
[-] hector@lemmy.today 2 points 3 months ago

The problem with that statement, is that it ignores the rot in those institutions that allowed the leader of the party to seize control and subordinate the government to him. Same as with these democrats. Anything unfairly attacked and the establishment lead their sheep and cynical bedfellows to defend the attacked in all things. Be it one of our captured federal agencies, and they all are captured by the forces they are supposed to control and regulate, or the democratic process.

Everyone knows the system isn't working well, and that it's getting worse. By not acknowledging that, let alone trying to fix it, they lose credibility, and support. The president got a lot of supporters because he did acknowledge the rot in the country, and promised to fix it. He looked like he was fighting the system, and a victim of it too, and we all know the voters by and large don't know better.

Everything was strained before, the president took control through the alternate reality the rich funneled us into, not just republican aligned voters but corporate media's "center left" aligned crowd as well is in an alternate reality to different degrees.

Without offering popular reform there is no way to take the country back, and Christie and his ilk are the old guard whose mission is to prevent popular reform.

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