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How is it going, TeamSpeak? (programming.dev)

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[-] southernbrewer@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

I don't really get it. Every time I've reluctantly used Discord, I've gotten absolutely lost in UI. And I don't know what's wrong with just using Steam calls (for games) which works great tbh.

But the really annoying thing about Discord is when open source communities use it. Open source projects have no business using closed platforms like this, where I can't even browse the discussions without signing up, and you can't find bug reports by search engine. Just use some open discussion forum software. GitHub discussions is fine...

[-] doenietzomoeilijk@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 days ago

Just use some open discussion forum software.

GitHub discussions is fine…

Pick one. Github most certainly is not open.

[-] SCmSTR 10 points 2 days ago

Twitter is the new 4chan

[-] kepix@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

was an ok meme shitting on discord, but most platforms suck ass

[-] fatalicus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Posted this as a reply to someone else, but seems they have deleted their comment, but here is a spreadsheet someone is working on that compares the different options now: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14vicw-V9Z5m7ckuburP5wxyDIIb_fFJFEjnxxHk8qRw/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[-] sirico@feddit.uk 23 points 2 days ago

Steam had 90% of the tooling just needs polishing

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I said this like 2 years ago and people called me an idiot, but I'm glad more people are seeing this now.

Steam has all the infrastructure to be a social network platform the same way Discord or Facebook is, it has most of the distinct components already present, they're just clunky, not as well integrated as they could be, UI still has a lot of legacy stuff that'd need to be refactored.

It would just need an overhaul... and of course, Valve actually deciding they want to deal with all the insane bullshit that comes with trying to run a social network explicitly as a social network.

[-] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago

I never thought about that. I use the voice chat a little bit, but you are right that it works well enough and I can stream my games.

The only pain point would be for people that don't use steam for whatever reason. Discord offers the web interface which is useful when video chatting with non gamers.

[-] VinnyDaCat@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

TeamSpeak can only replace the voice chatting aspect. The vast majority of people use discord for text chat.

It's really such a different beast. You can chat in a discord server while you're on your phone when you're unavailable to chat on voice. I know teamspeak has an app, but it was clunky last time I bothered with it, and it's still not that type of experience. People love discord chat, they love the emotes, they love their profiles. I just can't see a lot of people giving that up.

And like I've said earlier, I'm not even sure if most people are aware of the changes or if they even care. The people from Aus or the UK that I've seen on discord lately seem like they're just dealing with the id requirements.

[-] Th3D3k0y@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

This is my issue with finding a replacement, text and voice in one with specific channels.

I like to segregate my topics so things don't get too cluttered, it's why I moved from Skype to Discord originally. But I also want my voice chat and text chats to be in the same program.

I've used Ventrilo and TeamSpeak before for voice and I liked the self hosting option, but no text. IRC is text without voice. Matrix looks... complicated to self host.

So I'm looking at Stoat (formerly Revolt)

[-] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This is my issue with finding a replacement, text and voice in one with specific channels.

Currently, Movim offers very good text chat (even offers optional encryption!), as well as group video/voice calls as well as screensharing with audio (must use a chromium browser to share the audio for now). It also has fully fleshed out and working federation, which is super important in the long-term. it works across all platforms, and runs in the browser.

Downsides: It is currently missing Discord-like servers with rooms, but the dev is actively working on implementing those, and later drop-in voice rooms. They also just launched a funding drive to help accelerate development. It's not quite as polished and smooth as Discord in the UX department, but it does work reliably, and it's available right now.

If those tradeoffs aren't deal breakers, than I'd say it's definitely worth a try. It's very quick to sign-up to test, as it doesn't require an email.

So I’m looking at Stoat (formerly Revolt)

Currently, Stoat cannot yet perform video calls or screenshare, though I believe they are working on that. It is also not federated, and I don't believe there are plans to implement any federation, which is personally a big knock against it.

I'd say if you find that Movim isn't workable for you, you may want to wait for Fluxer to improve, as that does plan to implement federation and limited encryption, the downside is it's quite buggy at the moment, and it could be a while before it's ready.

Hope that helps :)

Also @QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works, @kurcatovium@piefed.social

[-] Th3D3k0y@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I'm checking out Fluxer and Movim. I don't NEED video chat, sometimes we steam games while other people are just chilling out so they can watch, but it's uncommon. It's a small group of friends so huge support isn't massive either.

The federation stuff would be very nice since that's a big oof on Stoat at the moment.

[-] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Fluxer. Literally just fluxer. It's being made by a ex security tester for discord. Already 90%+ feature parity with discord.

The free user experience is solid and its funding is a rather simple and straight forward sub model to support centralized hosting for the less technical users or larger communities. With an option to self host, self hosting is free provides all the same benefits as the sub as it should since you arnt using their bandwidth.

The only problem with it is it just rolled into beta and is being overloaded with new users.

The mobile app is under development but has a bunch of flutter devs working on it. And the pwa app works extremely well in the mean time.

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[-] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Teamspeak is actually insane in 2026. Just goes to show what kind of progress in online communicators can be made if you invest into anything reasonable and not surveillance.

[-] warm@kbin.earth 77 points 3 days ago

TeamSpeak had their chance, but they decided to be complacent after getting popular. Now they are playing catchup and very slowly. Discord has given them multiple chances now to take back market share, but TeamSpeak was never ready. This time some other project will take over instead.

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 35 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Its also closed source as i recently learned...

[-] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 45 points 3 days ago

How did that go unnoticed? I always remember them requiring a license in order to have more than a small handful of people connected to the server you are running locally on your own computer.

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[-] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 25 points 3 days ago

So seriously, what's going to replace Discord? Everyone wants to leave, but to where?

And no, Matrix is not and will never be a viable alternative

[-] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 1 points 1 day ago

And no, Matrix is not and will never be a viable alternative

Why not? I've been using Matrix for a few years now. I like it, but it definitely lacks refinement and isn’t particularly user-friendly.

I think of it a bit as being the Linux of messaging platforms.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

The problem isn't that there are no alternatives. It's that there's like 50 alternatives. Centralization makes us vulnerable, but it's also super convenient.

There's a reason we preferred reddit and now Lemmy instead of different forums with different logins for everything.

The biggest problem with getting off Discord is fragmentation of communities.

[-] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago

Reddit can't die fast enough. I miss niche subreddits

[-] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 2 points 1 day ago

Don't worry, it's trying to speedrun its downfall.

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[-] kurcatovium@piefed.social 27 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I've seen mentioned these:

Stoat - pretty much same UI, based in UK, not sure where they get $$
Fluxer - looks virtually like 1:1 Discord clone, based in Sweden, has paid tier pretty much like Nitro on Discord on official server
Nerimity - a little different UI, but still very Discord-y, based in UK, sourced from donations
Movim - this one is interesting, but it's not really Discord style app; it looks more like cross breed between IM and social network (FB/X), origin in France
Strafe - looks like Discord, supposedly have e2ee
Spacebar - reverse engineered Discord, IDK about maturity of this one
Adapt - another wanna be

[-] AlfalFaFail@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 days ago

Saw this a few days ago.

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[-] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

but it’s not really Discord style app; it looks more like cross breed between IM and social network (FB/X)

It has a built-in blog feature that communities or individuals can use to post announcements or articles to the whole instance, but it's pretty easily ignored by just clicking the messages tab, which doesn't show them at all, and makes the interface look more like Discord.

[-] moopet@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 days ago

Why is "one-to-one clone of Discord" the goal for everyone? Why not set your sights on a making a good UX instead?

[-] CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 3 days ago

ngl, discord kinda had the best UX before the enshittification began

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[-] kurcatovium@piefed.social 6 points 2 days ago

Well, Discord's UI is certainly not the holy grail, but it's quite functional and people are used to it. So it's pretty much logical you copy the concept to some extent when you want to appeal to these people?

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[-] VeganCheesecake 20 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Matrix is not

With LiveKit for calls / screen share, it is for my group. Though I'm not saying it doesn't have issues.

will never be

Community-developed homeservers like continuwuity have gotten a lot of new support on the last few weeks. Clients like cinny are getting pretty close to a replacement ux wise (if you look at PR2599 on Cinny's GitHub, they are working on and will soon merge support for LiveKit in a way that is very close to voice channels).

I also generally think that the only way to replace Discord as an ecosystem where you talk to many people from different communities is a federated protocol, not a bunch of new silos, one for each community.

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[-] SpiceDealer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 days ago

There's Stoat (formerly Revolt) and Fluxer. Additionally, Steam has many Discord-like features in app.

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[-] rickywithanm@aussie.zone 4 points 2 days ago

I’m interested to know why matrix isn’t viable for you? I’ve been trialing it recently with friends and it seems to tick all our boxes. I do admit I don’t do large communities personally

[-] fatalicus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Someone has made a large spreadsheet of discord alternatives, with comparisons of features, that might help people decide: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14vicw-V9Z5m7ckuburP5wxyDIIb_fFJFEjnxxHk8qRw/edit?gid=0#gid=0

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[-] 64bithero@lemmy.world 69 points 3 days ago

I still prefer to open my window and just scream for the person I’m trying to reach. Fuhgedaboutet

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[-] vzqq 48 points 3 days ago

They got trounced by Ventrilo, which had the saddest looking UI I’ve ever seen on a commercial product.

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