Does anyone else feel like this is meme hasn't aged well? There was a point where it was true, but now I would say installing up to date drivers on Linux and maintaining them is easy than Windows...
The NVIDIA driver is alright now, but in my experience had un-debuggable segfaults in the opengl part, so I had to abandon it. Sad.
It used to be this way and was one of my biggest complaints. It's no longer this way. Drivers for my Nvidia card works fine on my mint and arch setup.
X.org or Wayland?
I used xorg on mint and wayland on arch. No issues related to drivers on either.
I experience some screen flickering and short blackouts.
the upsides of buying from a Company that donates to OSS projects rather then not donating and only maintains proprietary drivers.
IK broadcom also does this too,but broadcom do have drivers in Mesa only for the Raspberry PI.
This kinda reminded me of a scene in That 70s Show where Red Forman strongly recommended to his son that he should only fit accessories compatible with his 1969 Oldsmobile car.
Intel drivers:
I need an intel driver to turn the fucking useless onboard graphics off. for debian. any tips?
You can't. Some laptops have the igpu as the dedicated driver of the display and can't do hardware mux. If your laptop doesn't offer the option in UEFI, it probably doesn't support it.
thank you for this info. what do you think would happen if I did the following , more or less with the info indicated in my post here?
https://gist.github.com/pjobson/9e5f7349cf4f28bc82f82ea980047778
https://lemmy.world/post/43248486/22203270
EDIT: I'd get a fucking black screen. 😭🔫
any tips?
My laptop has this option in the bios settings 
Not sure if it's only for laptops but you could check there.
I checked, it's the easiest option and isn't on my stupid MSI motherboard
I’ve learned it best to use nvidia drivers with nvidia cards and the AMD drivers with the AMD cards. I recommend this for performance.
Thank you for posting this!! I can’t get an erection. I tried using an AMD driver the other day with my NVIDIA card and was stumped why my screen was blank. I’d give you gold if I could!
Absolutely crazy take, I bet no one has thought of this.
I think it's more of a
Open drivers vs proprietary drivers
15 years ago this was true lol
3 years ago this was true. Not sure if nvidia works properly with wayland even now, though at least the trend is different now
It has no issues, NVIDIA just works these days (if you use a distro where you can choose to use proprietary drivers for it during installation)
I mean yeah, but that’s a little like saying “computers all have WiFi capabilities these days, as long as you only buy motherboards with built in WiFi.” It’s a pretty large limitation to place on the user’s choice. Especially when Linux users like to meme about certain distros being better or worse.
It used to be that there was no option at all, on any distro. You'd have the broken proprietary drivers, or the open source reverse engineered one with half the performance and unreliability in specialty features.
Since then Nvidia has shifted focus to get their drivers working properly, and there were also changes making them more open source, tho I'm not sure that'd mean the "proprietary driver" will go full foss at some point.
If op is to be believed, the proprietsry driver is already a lot more stable, so it's now a software licensing issue not an unfixable technical issue.
You might not remember ATI atrocity.
When you want to do GPU processing for AI, crypto, video editing, etc, though, this gets reversed.
Getting Cuda working on Linux with an nvidia card is relatively painless. Just a few well-documented commands, worked on the first try.
I could never get AMD's equivalent to work on Linux, though, and it led me down a horrible rabbit-hole of trying a dozen different driver versions from a dozen different places, all with their own unique and quirky ways of installing... And it still never did work.
ROCM is pretty simple. It's just no where near as robust and supported as Cuda.
Thats just poor distro support, kind of like CUDA in the past.. ROCM should "just work" if it's shipped right. But it's not really a priority with maintainers.
Now, if you're trying to run CUDA stuff with ROCM, that's a whole different story. The bast majority of GPU software has extremely poor ROCM support compared to CUDA, and some of this is definitely from AMD footgunning.
i wish i could go to an amd card but i just upgraded my video card (geforce rtx 4060 ti) like 3 months before i decided to move to linux :(
You could flip it
Never had an issue with my Nvidia card. OBS can use the hardware encoder out of the box. Just a few weeks ago upgraded to a AMD card and had to set some "advanced" settings in OBS to do the same. Really happy overall, but after seeing this meme for years I expected rainbows and sunshine but was unpleasantly surprised in that regard.
my nvidia card caused sleeping and hibernation to randomly and regularly fail, and it made me very vary of system updates breaking random things.
I'm running wayland with nvidia-open and nvidia-utils packages, and have never encountered any driver issues in both graphics and compute.
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