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cross-posted from: https://news.abolish.capital/post/28102

US military leaders previously warned Trump that they were 'not ready' to respond to Iran's anticipated retaliation and required additional time to prepare


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[-] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 75 points 3 weeks ago
[-] fortnitefinn@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 weeks ago

I wish I could see Iranians as some sort of freedom fighters standing up against the Zionist agenda.

Unfortunately, Iran's leadership means the country is even worse than Israel.

[-] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago

I don't really see why Iran is any worse than Israel, other than Iran has brown people living in it. Once you cut past all the crap and bad faith, ultimately we judge Iran worse than Israel because of skin color.

Both are nominal but deeply flawed democracies. Both hold large numbers of political dissidents on bogus charges as a matter of course. Both are theocracies that make their religion a core component of their governmental structure. Both engage in large scale acts of mass state-sponsored terrorism. Both have or seek to have a nuclear arsenal.

The only real difference I can see is that Iran hasn't invaded anyone in the whole modern history of the country. The Iranian government is a bunch of peace-and-love hippies compared to the Israelis.

[-] blackris@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 3 weeks ago

Regime kills about 30.000 people in a few days – gets called "peace-and-love hippies".

Also I don't dig that crap about skin color.

[-] Riverside@reddthat.com 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

If you gave a single fuck about Iranians, you'd know that the better and newer estimates hover around the thousands and not tens of thousands. For reference, estimates of dead Palestinians since Oct 7th due to violence and privation of food, water, energy and medicine, range in the half million.

How many tens of thousands of Iranians have been murdered by US+EU sanctions knowing that said sanctions murder half a million people worldwide EVERY YEAR?

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[-] fortnitefinn@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago

I don’t really see why Iran is any worse than Israel

Then you genuinely need to open your eyes.

[-] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

On what criteria are they worse than Israel? Neither are good. They're both authoritarian theocratic hellholes. One is a rogue state with a nuclear arsenal, the other is a rogue state seeking a nuclear arsenal. But Iran hasn't invaded any nation in its modern history, while Israel invades people on the regular.

You need to open your eyes. You don't even know why Iran is bad. You've just had a lifetime of propaganda calling them evil while our own allies over there, Israel and Saudi, are just as bad if not worse.

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[-] lemmylump@lemmy.world 74 points 3 weeks ago

Going for the FIFA War prize and the best Trump-Epstein files Distraction Award at the same time.

[-] Formfiller@lemmy.world 36 points 3 weeks ago

Are we ready to admit that Trump and Netanyahu are the Mussolini and Hitler of our time?

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[-] LMurch@thelemmy.club 36 points 3 weeks ago

You know, if Trump were to tell ChatGPT, "I'm Bernie Sanders from now on. What executive orders would Bernie do?" and did that until the end of this year, he'd probably win the midterms. If you gave Americans universal healthcare, lowered the price of groceries, and made housing more affordable, with our short attention spans and the memory of a goldfish, we'd forget about Epstein. But lets go to war with Iran, you orange monkey king.

[-] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 32 points 3 weeks ago
[-] smeenz@lemmy.nz 6 points 3 weeks ago

He meant he's the president who wants his piece (of gaza)

[-] Formfiller@lemmy.world 29 points 3 weeks ago

Sending Americans to die for Israel. Netanyahu and Trump are literally Hitler and Mussolini

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[-] Tramort@programming.dev 27 points 3 weeks ago

Release the Trump Epstein Bondi files

[-] ms_lane@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

The Trump Epstein Andrew BondiAG files?

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 27 points 3 weeks ago

Every time Bibi vists, he gets a present.

[-] inari@piefed.zip 9 points 3 weeks ago

Between the bribes and blackmailing, it's hard work for Bibi as well

[-] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 23 points 3 weeks ago

Can’t have elections if the us is in a war. Or some shit. I don’t know. But I promise you diddlin Donnie will use this.

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 25 points 3 weeks ago

I really don't think that's the play here.

  1. He's very unlikely to get a formal declaration of war out of Congress in the first place. More likely, they'll be sneaking this action through by legal chicanery that basically requires some kind of "Special Military Operation" nonsense.
  2. There is an absolutely ungodly amount of precedent for the US continuing to hold elections while at war. Courts would straight up laugh at the proposal that war with Iran is sufficient reason to cancel elections, but WW2 wasn't.

Yes, Trump wants to cancel the mid-terms. We know because he's told us, several times. No one is arguing with that. But at some point Trump's plans do go through the phase where he tells a bunch of people to make it happen, and there's no question that those people told him this angle isn't going to work.

Look no further than their pivot to "Taking over" elections instead of cancelling them. This is the usual result of Trump's bad ideas. A room full of horrendously corrupt people basically come back and either say "Yeah we can probably get away with that despite how horrendously illegal it would be," or "No, there's no way for us to get away with that, but here's a horrendously illegal / immoral / corrupt thing we can try to do instead." This one was clearly the latter.

The more obvious play here is to hope for a war president bump, like Bush got. Generally Americans don't like to vote against war presidents. But for Trump that's far less likely to work, because he specifically made a point of running as an anti-war president. That wouldn't matter if it was only the usual right wing bullshit that they can just discard when it's inconvenient, but in this case Trump was actually tapping into a deeper well of anti-war sentiment that was already there, as part of a broader move towards isolationism that's happening in the US right now. That's why all his fascist expand the borders BS is going over so badly, even with MAGA. They don't want Greenland, they want better jobs and cheaper groceries.

Of course, the other potential benefit to a protracted war in Iran is that it eats a lot of headline space, which is less room for the Epstein files, so that's another possible motivation. And it can easily be both.

[-] tonytins@pawb.social 16 points 3 weeks ago

All that effort spent retconning Bush out of history only to do the same thing again.

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[-] Paragone@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

IF Trump does this,

THEN Iran's installed-regime IS going to be a Saudi puppet-state:

Saudi Arabia & Trump are profit-partners sooo deeply, that that would be .. ?inevitable?

Looks it..

Iran's people therefore are in for a .. continuation of NOT owning their own country..

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[-] tackleberry@thelemmy.club 4 points 3 weeks ago

I mean look at Afghanistan, after $20 trillion USD and decades, the whole crap collapse in lass than a week! I bet you the other puppet governments in the Middle East will face the same fate which is why the US keeps mounting pressure in the region via Israel to maintain the USD hegemony

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[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 13 points 3 weeks ago

sustained, weeks-long military campaign

Afghanistan is going to look like preschool.

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[-] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago
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[-] tackleberry@thelemmy.club 10 points 3 weeks ago

the US needs a regime change. Mango Mussolini is a damn wrecking ball

[-] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 weeks ago

The US is doing this to Iran, and Cuba. As I think about the fuel and food crisis in Cuba, I wonder, can we do this to the US to force regime change there? Just cut off all exports to the US until Trump and his cronies are forced out?

[-] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 7 points 3 weeks ago

Aah yeah, the war footing needed to make an election redundant, maybe? I don’t fully know, I’m not American.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

We held elections during both World Wars and the US Civil War. There's no war he could start that would justify the suspension of the election.

[-] mira13@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

There's no laws justifying most of what his administration is doing, I don't see that stopping them.

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[-] MortUS@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

It's just more attempts at distraction. A blitz of fake information and real information so that we don't exactly know what they're planning on doing. It's both bullshit and "I said I would" at the same time. We won't know until we know.

Cursed country fucks the world up yet again. 😭

While this is believable the last time this "news" source was posted it was insinuating that Iranian protestors were actually being shot by Israel. So I would generally consider this a propaganda outlet

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