As compared to what? Is he worse than Trump? I sincerely fucking doubt it.
That's a ridiculously low bar, but it's also an important distinction.
Do I want Gavin Newsom to be the Democrat nominee for 2028? Hell no! He's revealed himself to be a shallow political opportunist and an ideological chameleon. And I think that party can do better.
But regardless, would he be an improvement over Trump? Hell yes!
Another question is: is he - a supposedly populist liberal from California - even electable on a national stage? I don't think so. But then, we live in very 'interesting' times. So who knows.
The third question is: will we have a fair enough election in 2028 (or an election at all)? That remains to be seen.
Democrats have been playing the "well they suck, but at least they're not Trump!" game for a decade and gotten Trump two out of three times. Maybe we should aim higher.
As compared to some of the other candidates that might have run if the Democratic Primary were an actual primary and not a coronation.
The last time Democrats ran an actual primary ws 2008, when a young, generational candidate beat out the (kinda boring) establishment choice. Democrats learned their lesson to never let something encouraging like that happen again!
Gavin's gonna win the Primary, as his right as the Next One Up, and we're all gonna vote for him, because as awful as he is, he is objectively better than whoever the MAGA party will run.
And this is the exact attitude why nothing will ever change in this country. You can't keep voting in people hellbent on maintaining the hegemony capital has over everyone and expect anything to get better for you.
The best pushback for this message is to post the entire interview between Newsom and Ben Shapiro and then tell me again who cares about people.
So more of that lesser evil bullshit that's given us trump and helped shift the entire DNC to the right?
You mean the serial adulterer who can't read and whose entire life has been sponsored by a Getty oil heir isn't a good candidate for president of the United States? Shocked.
Fuck newsom
I hate to admit this, but I used to listen to the Adam Corolla podcast years ago, and he had Newsom on as a guest when he was lieutenant governor of California. At the time, he claimed that the biggest issue facing Californians was being unbanked. Like payday loan companies were the worst threat.
Newsom was Lt. Governor of CA from 2011-2019. I am not Californian, and I don't know what they're dealing with outside of the seemingly-constant wildfires, and those seem pretty fucking bad, and I'm sure there are some other pretty terrible things Californians have to deal with, too.
That said, payday loan companies deserve to get spit-roasted by the Devil and the Devil's angriest pet donkey in the deepest bowels of Hell.
Newsom says he’s eager to pitch a big tent for the Democratic Party, declaring that he welcomes the likes of former US senator Joe Manchin as well as New York’s socialist mayor Zohran Mamdani in the fold. “I want it to be the Manchin to Mamdani party,” Newsom said in November.
Newsom can fuck right the hell off. Manchin represents everything that is wrong with the Democratic party and so, apparently, does Newsom.
declaring that he welcomes the likes of former US senator Joe Manchin
Turn our backs and give them extra knives, huh gav?
Hopefully, we get AOC as the front runner. I am sick of the Democratic establishment.
Watching how fast he threw the trans community under the bus told me everything I needed to know about him. He has the moral compass of a boiled piece of spaghetti... fuck this corpo dem.
I believe the term is Blue MAGA.
And the worst part is the democratic party will champion this fucker because it's fully bought and paid for.
I saw him speak at Davos a while ago and I thought he was a big phony guy with very little acting skills but who is constantly acting. Another cult of personality instead of any real depth of thought.
What, this guy? Surely not.
gavin isn't the greatest but he was just following state law
https://bsky.app/profile/parkermolloy.com/post/3merscb5bhs2i
Parker Molloy @parkermolloy.com rubs temples
As I've spent the better part of the day explaining why I don't think Newsom should be the Democratic nominee for president, it pains me to "defend" this, but...
The governor of California is legally obligated to proclaim each Feb 6 Reagan Day per a 2010 state law.
I personally think Mark Kelly will be running and I just might choose him.
He's the better choice strategically.
Best way I've heard to describe him is, "at least he's lawful evil"
Such is the standards of our time, where Law, even an Evil variety, is better than the purely malicious Chaos we have. Mostly because the law is running on the fading fumes of Neutral.
Given a few decades of Newsom, we would have Ronald Reagan Deluxe.
Gavin Newsom has a greater chance of losing to Vance and almost any other democratic candidate.
Libs need to stop falling for the 'leftists want trump to win, see look they wont commit to voting for the Democrats' shtick. They just want to discredit the part of the base that's trying to actually save the party.
Mamdani handed the DNC a win and they fought him the whole way anyhow. Centrists as always act like there’s no alternative between centrism and conservatism even though it’s only and specifically because they systematically attack anyone who actually tries to make things truly better.
Time for the Tankies to form up the circular firing squad
(With enough Putin bots to give it legs)
It's not just tankies, everyone hates Gavin Newsom, he sucks, if he is picked as a nominee it's further proof the democratic establishment hates their base and is throwing the election again. Bluesky is very liberal and not tankie basically at all and even the comments there are nearly entirely shitting on him for his terrible positions and unlikability. https://bsky.app/profile/thetnholler.bsky.social/post/3metxjlxwec2d
Putin bots are the ones who made Newsom do bad things? Or are they the ones who did the journalism? Or are they they ones who can have a memory beyond 2 weeks?
The only people Newsom appeals to are neo-liberals ashamed that Trump won't keep up appearances and isn't keeping his criminal imperialism masked in the liberal pageantry that we've done for decades or centuries in the US.
He is courting the right, he made a day to celebrate Ronald Fucking Reagan, jesus christ how loud of a dog-whistle do you all need.
Tankies are just roleplay kids, they hate everyone who isn't roleplaying also. Newsom is an actual threat to democracy wrapped in a too-wide smile and promises of a "return to normal." He would be more dangerous than Trump and he would do his damage behind a facade of national cooperation and stability while empowering the lunatics like Thiel and Musk.
Yea he’s a fascist. That’s why he platforms Nazi’s and Zionists on his podcast and magically lets them persuade him that they are right. It’s also why he vetoes everything that helps the working class. It’s also why he let PG&E get away with murdering 800 Californians and he allows them to raise our rates 6 times a year while they continue to make record shareholder profits. It’s also why why he is fighting the one time 5% billionaire tax proposed by the California legislature as hard as he can. We need an FDR Newsom is an Israeli asset and a closeted republican who’s Gen z handlers make funny tweets.
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