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[-] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 48 points 1 week ago

Cops shouldn't have assault rifles either, they're not the military. I find the second amendment so fucking dumb. It's to rise up against a tyrannical government. But since you have it, precisely now is the time to use it. Helloooow? Why don't you use it? You have a tyrannical government full of pedophiles. All those decades full of innocent deaths, all so you can keep your precious second amendment, just in case you reach a point you are in now. Well, go ahaid then, prove all those deaths were worth it. Bunch of self-centered uneducated hypocrites.

[-] Azrael@reddthat.com 16 points 1 week ago

I agree with you. The issue is that the people who have been fighting to keep the second amendment are the ones who are siding with and enabling the government. The pro-second amendment people are the ones who voted for Trump in the first place.

[-] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago

So? Are they the only ones allowed to buy guns? Or is the second amendment also for the Trump haters?

When my government would turn complete authoritarian fascist, I would love it if I could just buy a gun in the local supermarket.

[-] Azrael@reddthat.com 6 points 1 week ago

I'm assuming from the way your comment is worded that you're not from the U.S.

Blue states tend to have much stricter gun laws, as another user pointed out. For example, in California, "Assault Rifles" are banned. You most certainly cannot walk into a supermarket and buy an AR-15. As far as i'm aware, most major retailers including Walmart don't sell guns at all in California. Even handguns have a maximum magazine capacity. No more than 10 rounds. Much less than your standard Glock or Sig Sauer.

I'd also like to point out that "Buying a gun in the local supermarket" is a little bit of a misconception. It's true that some superstores sell guns, but they aren't right next to the milk and bread. They're in locked cabinets in a specific part of the store where you'll also find other hunting equipment. The whole point of a superstore/supermarket is that they sell everything in one place as opposed to the pre-supermarket days where you had to go to multiple different stores just to get your weekly shopping supplies.

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[-] Soulg@ani.social 5 points 1 week ago

Well for starters, we can't just buy a gun in a supermarket. You seem to not actually know what you're talking about and just get information from memes.

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[-] sobchak@programming.dev 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The interpretation of the 2nd amendment that the courts take never made sense to me. It clearly says states can have well-regulated militias, not that citizens must have rifles with 50rd drum magazines.

[-] bearboiblake@pawb.social 13 points 1 week ago

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Emphasis mine - obviously there's more than one interpretation, but I think that if the intent was to only protect the rights of people to keep and bear arms if and only if they are members of some organized militia, it would have been clearly indicated by the text. It seems obvious to me that everything before that comma is explanatory, personally.

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago

It's very funny to me how much of US law discussion is arguing the intent of what some slavers wrote 250 years ago.

Is it even worse in Europe? Are people holding up the Magna Carta and going "see, it was never intended for widows to remarry"

[-] bearboiblake@pawb.social 3 points 1 week ago

The reality is that a lot of that law discussion is bullshit, the Supreme Court infamously just picks and chooses constitutional interpretations to support whatever goes in line with whatever they wanted to do in the first place. The more you learn about the Supreme Court, the more obvious it becomes.

I can't speak for the rest of Europe, but we don't have anything similar here, but we don't have a written constitution.

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[-] prole 4 points 1 week ago

That's because Antonin Scalia was a feckless hypocrite

[-] Enkrod@feddit.org 46 points 1 week ago

You can be non-peaceful and be non-violent.

Disturb the fucking peace, you don't need a gun for that. In fact having a gun with you might make things more dangerous.

Nobody is shooting at ICE, weapons do not help. They only make you feel like you are prepared while achieving nothing.

Now, spiking tires with nails, a car breaking down, blocking the street ICE wants to take, punching a nazi... that's way more effective, easy and (slightly) safer.

Fuck "the right to bear arms", you don't need legal weapons, do illegal shit, fuck their peace up. Do not let them sleep, eat or work. Be disturbing the peace, be gay, do crime. You do not need weapons, you don't need violence, you do need to step out of line and stop being peaceful.

Peaceful can be ignored.

Look to the yellow vests in France for inspiration.

[-] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago

If this were reddit this post would get you banned.

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[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 45 points 1 week ago

COPY/PASTA

In the US we have the Second Amendment. The fascists have been the ones screaming and yelling about the Second Amendment, but the truth is that all Americans have the right.

Owning a gun isn't enough. Driving to Cabela's and picking up a vermin killing .22 rifle is not enough. You should buy a proper rifle, a pistol, and a knife or baton. (Bonus points for a shotgun) Then you need to train with said rifle, pistol and knife/baton. Go to a range and shoot. Look for local self defense/hand to hand combat with a weapon classes and train.

I am not advocating for violence...far from it. But I am advocating for knowledge because owning a weapon and not knowing how to use it is a recipe for disaster.

PS: If you can afford it, buy suppressors and/or active hearing protection. Especially for your rifles. Suppression for the common citizen isn't about stealth like in the movies, it is about protecting your hearing. Guns are LOUD. Much louder than you expect. Suppressors might be out of reach for most but quality active and passive hearing protection is not.

Familiarity is important, training will save your life.

Get an IFAK and go to a stop the bleed class https://www.stopthebleed.org/

If you’re currently versed in Firearms and are able to start a chapter, or if you are lucky enough to live in an area with a local chapter the SRA is a good organization. However they are apparently fractured and their politics may not align. https://socialistra.org/

https://www.blazingsword.org/ is better for LGBTQ+ anarchists that tend to not get along with Tankies.

A more decentralized option could be a John Brown Gun Club https://www.counterextremism.com/supremacy/john-brown-gun-club

Good basis of organized tactics. The guide below is more about organized movement than direct fire. Below will NOT help you in a firefight as it relies on a much larger trained force than you are likely to have. Good to know what the bastards study though. https://www.trngcmd.marines.mil/Portals/207/Docs/TBS/B2F2837%20Rifle%20Squad%20Tactics.pdf?ver=2015-05-27-100939-710

How to avoid getting balled up and kettled. https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/anarch-ish-how-to-win-at-kettling-a-guide-for-non-policemen

Sabotage guide from WW2 https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/26184.txt.utf-8

General armed defense https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/organizing-armed-defense-in-america

How to organize a rapid response from a very high level with further detailed resources. https://southerncoalition.org/resources/rapid-response-101/

Good general advice on organizing, also a good resource to find groups near you that are likely aligned. https://www.fiftyfifty.one/organizer-resources

Feel free to reach out for any other resources

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[-] bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago

It really is a damn shame suppressors are illegal in California.

[-] French75@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 week ago

It's moronic. We demand lower noise in most products, but demand higher noise in guns because we can't distinguish Hollywood bullshit from reality. I think most CA Dems would accept the premise that reducing injurious noise levels while participating in a legal activity is a good idea, but institutionally they'd never give an inch on gun laws.

[-] bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

Let's be real here, if CA had their way, the only guns citizens would be legally allowed to own are muzzleloaders/muskets, and even then those would be heavily regulated.

I swear, CA becomes more of a nanny state by the day, and unfortunately, many people in LA and SF just nod in smug approval.

[-] BeardededSquidward 4 points 1 week ago

I thank Reagan and the Democrats for that. That act was unanimously passed just because white people were scared of black people protecting themselves from the racist cops.

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[-] sobchak@programming.dev 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Maybe I'm just old, but suppressors seem pointless to me. If I understand correctly, you need to use subsonic ammo to get the full effect, which pretty much negates the extra "stopping power" of rifles (or higher velocity handguns). Simple foam ear plugs, like many people wear to work, can be as good or better in terms of db reduction if going to a range or popping some off in "the back 40" if you're fortunate. If you need to run to your gun in an emergency to save you're own life, I don't think you'd take the time to grab your hearing protection. Hearing impaired is better than dead. And you're definitely not going to EDC active hearing protection. Perhaps I'm not understanding the benefits though. I see the benefits if it's like your job or something (work at a range, are a rancher that shoots vermin/predators at night). I suppose if you're training in some kind of militia to work in a squad, active hearing protection with integrated radio would be nice, but virtually nobody is doing that.

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[-] SleepyPie@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago

Hello folks.

For reasons unrelated to this post I believe everyone should get into the FPV drone hobby. People with minimal constitution can get great results - especially gamers!

A radio controller is about $150, and can be used with many great simulators on steam. Once you are comfortable with the simulation, invest in a (few) drones. Most of their parts can be 3D printed for cheap, and the rest bought from Chinese companies for cheap.

It is a lot of fun to fly around in the first person view. I hear they are very popular in Ukraine for some reason.

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

What if i wanted to combine my two favorite hobbies of guns and drones? How would I go about fusing them in some kind of way?

[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 7 points 1 week ago

Synthetic black powder is fairly common and is great for all sorts of fireworks and such. Drone shows should really incorporate more powder.

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[-] A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 35 points 1 week ago

I like not being a gringo.

I like living in a normal country.

I like living in a country that's not controlled by a cabal of pedofiles.

[-] aldhissla@piefed.world 17 points 1 week ago

Ok to points 1. and 2.

But where is this Shangri La you speak of?

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[-] yesman@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

Who you gonna shoot? I'm serious. Stalin was a bankrobber. Haitians drove Napoleon's army into the sea with machetes. The Black Panthers took several pigs off roll-call. What's your plan, revolutionary?

[-] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 40 points 1 week ago

Im not american but hopefully nobody. Their whole rationality for having guns everywhere all the time is that if everyone has a gun nobody needs a gun.

We, the rest of the world, think its a stupid idea, but if the government is literally killing people in the streets and declaring the murderers as heroes, its not looking so daft.

[-] Pixel_Jock_17@piefed.ca 16 points 1 week ago

For the first time in my life I have considered a gun. I agree with your comment, it's typically something I don't need or want. I don't want my neighbours to want them or need them.

But here we are and it's terrible.

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[-] mirshafie@europe.pub 5 points 1 week ago

They use the same rationale for international security. If everybody gas nuclear bombs, then nobody needs them. It's insane doomsday evangelism dressed up as a debate club argument.

[-] seathru@quokk.au 14 points 1 week ago

Simply being prepared for the worst is a plenty fine plan. Just, actually be prepared, don't just buy a gun and expect to know how to use it proficiently when the need arises.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I believe that I can go to the store and purchase a sense of security. Once I own a gun, I can indulge in revolutionary fantasies that aren't complicated by material conditions.

Safety is just another thing we've commoditized. No need to struggle against my own alienation or form coalition with my neighbors.

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[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 week ago
[-] Enkrod@feddit.org 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Gandhi was non violent and unarmed. But he WAS NOT peaceful. His protests were absolutely poison for the colonial economy and he broke several laws and had stints in prison during his time.

[-] BeardededSquidward 4 points 1 week ago

I'm reminded in this time that one of the reasons that Japan dare trying to invade the USA was "A gun behind every blade of grass." Helicopters, planes, drones can't hold positions. You need troops on the ground to hold a position to keep people in line. It's hard to to do that when you can be shot from any direction.

As well to me, if I'm facing the possibility of being killed execution style for just demonstrating or helping someone that was maced, I'd rather be armed. Even if I have little chance of surviving, that's better than 0.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Spoiler, the British cared more about Indians than this administration cares about its citizens.

[-] BeardededSquidward 19 points 1 week ago

Funny thing is, if an armed populace is utterly incapable of doing a single damn thing as the gun banners say they are, WHY do the authoritarians in charge of these powerful modern military still banning guns?

[-] BanMe@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Same reason they only come out when surrounded by bulletproof glass or in sniper-controlled areas now. They don't want to be individually targeted.

Now it's interesting to imagine what would happen if hundreds of officials were individually targeted, but having a bunch of guns at your house ≠ that. Still the issue of targeted suppression exists, and would be highly effective.

If you burn down a neighborhood, if you shoot an RPG or a drone at a house, none of the guns inside matter, except they make it more lethal as you try to escape. They also make your house more unsafe for kids and yourself (statistically).

Arming yourself up defensively just doesn't do much. If they want you dead, they're gonna do it in a zero-casualty-for-them way. They can do that en masse, they can do that in rural or urban areas. They train for that 24/7. They love that.

Arming yourself offensively, well that's something else. I don't know if that's what's being suggested when this issue comes up though.

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[-] frank@lemmy.fraxoweb.com 17 points 1 week ago

Doomed if you do. Doomed if you don't. So might as well be a man and do what you believe in.

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[-] AlexLost@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

You all have guns, don't see anyone using them but the popo? Way to stand against an aggressive state, eh!

Fun fact! If you've ever been involuntarily committed to like a psychiatric hospital you're barred by Federal law from owning firearms! Some kinds of emergency and temporary holds are okay, but yeah because my wife had technically gotten involuntarily committed years ago before we met because she couldn't make it to the hospital safely for it to be voluntary she can't have them at all and it's unclear if I'd be able to with my own history of mental health issues

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[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago

How did this work out for Alex Pretti? He's the perfect example of how this shit will/would play out. Stop telling people to commit suicide ffs.

[-] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago

Pretti's mistake was not using his gun. They were gonna kill him and call him violent either way. May as well take a fascist with him.

[-] wpb@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

No bro just roll over and take it bro pls I'm telling you

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[-] bearboiblake@pawb.social 9 points 1 week ago

Renee Good didn't have a gun and got killed anyways. It's a good idea for everyone to arm themselves to fight fascism, believe it or not.

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[-] Reygle@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

"Arm" yourselves with gas masks, hardhats, traffic cones (if holes for air at the top, duct tape them shut.

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