So never buy OnePlus products. Got it. Thanks OnePlus for making the advice so clear!
That's what I heard. I know Samsung has been doing something like this as well.
Samsung has been blowing fuses in your phone when you root since at least 2015. I know because it happened to me. Never bought one again after that.
Yep, Samsung Knox is the feature name; does it actually prevent things or is it just "tamper evidence" for corporate devices?
According to the linked article it prevents the use of Samsung Pay and access to the Secure Folder (an extra layer of security you can enable that requires a second PIN to be input before you can access certain apps and files). This seems pretty reasonable, the goal is clearly to prevent access to especially sensitive data if someone has stolen the phone.
Wow, what happened to OnePlus? They used to be so cool. Hell, the first one ran Cyanogen.
They're basically being folded into Oppo right now. OnePlus as a company is pretty much dead.
“Open” once again being abused as angle to build something for an exit. It sounds like.
what has happened, indeed. I still use an 8T and I love it heavily, but good lord. apparently you miss a few models and the whole company changes.
It's not flashing a custom ROM. It is installing an OS of users choice. Enemy's language shouldn't be used if we want things to change
This is why "side load" is annoying to me. It's installing. It is not special or different. They aren't "blocking side loading" they're "restricting what you can install."
Still custom as it's not the default
What makes it "custom"? If you install Linux on a laptop that comes with Windows pre-installed, is Linux then a custom OS it's not being a default? Why phones are any different? Calling it custom you play to the manufacturers pockets making it sound shady and unofficial giving them right to take the control from the customers devices. Soon we won't own anything we buy.
I've never thought a custom ROM sounded shady.
To me it was always, "we only have vanilla or chocolate on the menu, but if you're willing to risk bricking your phone, you can get cookies and cream."
I picked cookies and cream.
Installing linux on your Dell that came with Windows isn't "Installing a custom OS."
Wasn't OnePlus like worshipped because of how much support for custom ROMs wth
The original "One" phone was even supposed to run cyanogemod out of the box at one point.
Yes they were and did for about 6 years, 2014-2020ish isn't a bad run
If true, this is sabotage of the customers product, and must 100% be illegal in almost any country!!
But my guess is they are limiting this to countries that have absolute shit consumer protection.
I haven't read the entire XDA thread but there are a few posts saying it's limited to ColorOS (Chinese version of android that everyone else gets as OxygenOS). Unable to verify.
If they don't reverse course, I'm sure it'll roll out globally eventually. This has to run afoul of EU's strong warranty laws right?
Things are illegal only when enforced. Otherwise they're a suggestion at best.
That's part of how shitty the consumer protection really is.
But common for all, there needs to be complaints before the law is involved.
....oh? I thought every console used this kind of tech as well.
So are console sold with the possibility of changing the OS, only to have that option removed later? There was some issue with PS3, but apart from that I never heard about it.
Ooooh, okay, now I understand. I was referring to the way modern consoles blow a fuse with each new patch so you can't load older patches.
But yeah, the PS3 removed the ability to boot Linux which it was explicitly advertised to have and it was a huge thing at the time.
"...long enough to become the villain."
Holy shit. I wanted to say something constructive, but just…. holy shit. Intentional hard brick of a customer owned device….
That means they were making money by people running their os.
If they spend the money on re-engineering their devices not to allow it, there was a cost advantage to selling your data.
Many users were buying OpenPlus Pro smartphones solely because of the ability to unlock the bootloader and flash custom ROMs. People value freedom and customization. OpenPlus is shooting itself in the foot.
Oppo killed and ate OP a long time ago. They've just been wearing their skin like a suit up to this point, but their true nature is obvious at this point.
I bought a OP 9Pro just before Oppo decimated the company. They moved from Oxygen OS to a poorly camouflaged version of Oppo Color OS and stripped out some of the features that made Oneplus what it was. Oppo also almost completely stopped fixing bugs, even some really serious ones that had been long documented. I recently bought a new phone and didn't even consider ~~Oneplus~~ Oppo.
It seems to me that the only reason Oppo would do this is to preserve the revenue they get from selling customer data that should remain private. Otherwise why would Oppo care what OS people run on their hardware?
I get why they do this, because downgrade attacks are a thing that are used to exploit devices remotely, but there are other ways to implement this, like what GrapheneOS does. Downgrading can also just be restricted to unlocked bootloaders as well via a software revocation list that gets deleted/bypassed upon unlocking.
There is no good reason for devices to use efuses to block downgrades unless they are trying to restrict user freedom a la consoles.
No good reason
"OnePlus shoots own foot. Likely to blame consumers for it"
so it basically permanently "damages" the phone when you try to root it, seems like they are asking for a lawsuit at some point.
Another company to add to the list.
One plus joined my short list of "I can't be bothered" companies like Samsung and Apple, Xiaomi, Oppo and some other sub par companies.
And all that while OnePlus was awesome up until the OnePlus 7 pro.
I had the 5t until last year and it was still awesome.
Seriously are there any Android brands that do not suck and ship everywhere (not limited to the US/EU markets)??
I believe thay all have shitty operating systems. But some of them have an aftermarket OS available. Pick your OS first, then look for a phone that can run it. Here are the ones I know of:
GrapheneOS
CalyxOS (on hiatus)
Crdriod
LineageOS
And yet my LinkedIn is still full of people complaining about how much the EU over-regulates
Well...So did Samsung with Samsung Knox
I don't know why this thread is complaining specifically about Chinese OEMs when Samsung has been doing this for years.
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