So just to be clear. The EPA cannot make regulations despite full congressional authority to do so because that is "creating law" without a direct legislative process. But ICE, an agency that doesn't even have real law enforcement powers, can just ignore the fourth amendment entirely because the president said so?
"Official acts."
Which by DEFINITION, would not include Un-Constitutional behavior. No violation of the Constitution could ever be construed as an "Official Act."
No SCOTUS had ever put guardrails on the president in almost 250 years, but this SCOTUS reinforced that he has immunity for "Official Acts," and nobody realizes that they just put guardrails on the presidency for the first time.
Everybody thinks it gives him immunity for EVERYTHING while he is president, but they specifically said "Official Acts," which would be those outlined in the Constitution. Anything deemed Un-Constitutional, would not be an "Official Act," and he would not have immunity, just like any other citizen.
Be sure to cite that when they're breaking down your door without a warrant because you posted a meme of Trump online
Guardrails? I think you should re-read their decision again. They gave him protection because until now even official acts didn't necessarily protect the president. And now, it doesn't matter what illegal thing he does as long as it's part of an official act. ANYTHING. Because as long as it's part of an official act they can't even question it. And they didn't even provide a list of what constitutes an official act.
So they literally put the president above all laws provided he can tie it back to some vague notion of an official act.
What exactly is the point of a judicial warrant if the executive branch can determine when they're unnecessary?
Nothing. And they are testing the water to see how much they can do without judges. So when they start standing outside polling booths they won’t get any government pushback.
And just as we always suspected, all those "2nd Amendment Absolutists" are doing sweet fuck all.
They like that this is happening (unless they're actually targeted by ICE).
Time for y'all to get guns then
They are drooling at the opportunity to make their own version of Horst Wessel out of an ICE officer.
Yeah I don't think the kirk fountain worked out as well as they'd hoped when they tried to capitalize on it.
That said, I don't think the escalation will stop anyway, so self defense is worth it.
For anyone who will be purchasing a firearm, please, please go to a range. Practice with it. Be familiar with how it works, maintenance, and basic repairs, and store it responsibly.
Yup, the most likely people to get shot with a gun are the owner and the owner's family. Gotta know what the hell you're doing.
100%.
I've handled a gun from a fairly young age, taught by my grandfather, a ww2 vet. Over the years I've shot skeet, some shooting competitions for fun, etc.
The most dangerous people I've ever seen at any of those places/events were the kind of people who loved buying lots and lots of guns, especially the 2A nuts who claim its all about protecting from the tyranny of the federal government. IMO, they just wanted to feel powerful - and as a result, they were negligent and dangerous. I know one of them who shot themselves in the leg pretty recently, because they ignored the most basic rule - treat every gun as if its always loaded. Guess what? That one was! And now he has a hole in his leg.
Sorry for getting into a rant there.
Guns are horrifically dangerous and should always be treated as such.
Oh this is gonna be fun when it runs up against castle doctrine
Not really. Remember Wilhoit's Law:
“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”
When they do it, its castle doctrine and qualified immunity and civil rights. When anyone else does it its terrorism. Your comment makes me think you haven't fully digested the situation and still think the US is a nation of laws. If so, you are gravely mistaken.
There's no justice under the Robert's court. There wasn't any before the Robert's court, but there isn't any now either.
Yes. It's not binary, but a scale that keeps sliding further and further down the savagery of an uncivilized shithole.
What these dumbasses (the ICE officers) aren't realizing is that this fascist administration wants these "agents" to get killed for stepping into the wrong house so they can use it as further justification for excessive force. Every ICE agent with boots on the ground is just a sacrificial lamb for their (the fascist regime's) racist agenda.
Edit: Added clarifications in parentheses.
Also, believe it or not, not every American owns a gun. The majority of those that do, own rifles intended for hunting or small handguns. Not weapons intended for military conflict. My SKS might deter a burglar, but it's just going to encourage a cadre of ICE agents to come in shooting.
and what other dumbasses aren't realizing is that force is going to be escalated regardless, so you might as well kill them instead of get killed
"ICE says its officers can forcibly enter homes . . . "
I've got a gun that says they can't.
Does their little memo offer protection against bullets?
Americans, time to exercise your second amendment is nigh.
Funny, I also said things that were untrue but convenient to me. I was 6 at the time, but still
feel like the US had an amendment for this
Can't wait for dems to retake power eventually and do absolutely nothing to prosecute these criminals. 'We have to promote unity to heal the divide.'
If the dems were worth a damn they would be loudly shouting from the rooftops 'when we control the levers of power you will be held accountable for violating the constitution'
Turns out all you need is a Supreme Court majority on your side and you can wipe your ass with the Constitution.
Obviously. That is the whole point of the Supreme Court. The surprising thing is that there wasn't more public concern when Trump selected his sycophant judges.
As a European I am baffled the civil war has not even started yet.
It's crazy right? Especially since americans were so vocal about all of the amendments and chekcs and balances for decades which turned out to mean absolutely nothing.
What about this memo that says they can’t? It also states we can bear arms to protect ourselves from tyranny so… check mate Nazis 
They clearly abandoned their oaths at all levels, so that document doesn't mean anything anymore if everybody willfully ignores it daily. At that point, it's just ink on a paper that is just barley better than a spill.
It is legal to booty trap your own house. Unrelated, just a funny thought.
Its not, but if you are going to Home Alone a bunch of ICE agents illegally entering your house, please record that shit. If its funny enough the jury will absolutely not convict you.
Imagine those fucks stepping on toy cars and sliding down a stairwell or being hit with powdered sugar and then set on fire.
I’m sorry, they’ll have to speak with our attorneys at Heckler & Koch
Oh my fucking god... Every comment in this stupid thread is saying the same stupid thing. "Time to get your guns...", "Exercise your 2nd amendment... " Yeah, that's hilarious tough guy. Do you have a gun? No? well do you have a gun license? No? Well do you know the first thing about firearms? You do! Oh you've played several call of duty games... Awesome. Do you know that you're statistically more likely to shoot a family member than a home intruder? Well I hope you don't like them much.
Ok, moving past the idiotic bravado... It sounds like you have no solution for people who aren't just itching to murder other people. Say for instance, that I have no interest in shooting someone, and in fact feel that a civil society should not involve shooting anyone, especially fellow countrymen. With that in mind, for the sane perhaps 70% of Americans, do you have any useful advice besides "get a gun"?
Finally, if your plan does work and every American arms themselves, then congratulations, we've fallen into civil war 2. Now what? Even if you do have guns, the government has bigger ones and they have munitions you don't. You will always, always be outgunned by the military. Now being armed makes you a hostile combatant/terrorist agent in the eyes of the law, anything you do with it will be deemed illegal. Some good that 2nd amendment is doing you. What's your plan now?
So you plan to just take the abuse and the loss of your liberties and freedoms?
I'll stick to my guns.
well do you have a gun license?
Tell me you're describing your own lack of experience with firearms without telling me you're describing your own lack of experience with firearms.
They will absolutely come for the guns next. Once the population is disarmed the civil war will begin. Martial law. Police state. No privacy protections. All amendments abolished. Civil rights act abolished. Military checkpoints at all state borders. Reinstated draft. 10% inflation. 20% unemployment. Reeducation centers. Prison work camps. State takeover of media. Iron curtain. Restricted Internet.
This year. Get out while the borders are open.
Well, they can try but I wouldn't recommend it.
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