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[-] imsufferableninja@sh.itjust.works 119 points 1 month ago
[-] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 76 points 1 month ago

... I guess as opposed to the Elon kind of African American?

[-] Zachariah@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

… or perhaps like Egyptian immigrants

… or black English immigrants

[-] BussyGyatt@feddit.org 17 points 1 month ago
[-] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"African American" is such a weird subset of people. Like, aren't all humans from Africa? Then why is this term used only for black people?

Or do they mean to specify the African diaspora caused by the slave trade? But then aren't we wrongfully including people who moved freely on their own to the US, and those that may even come from other regions?

I get that the word is basically a synonym for black people but with less attached prejudice. I'm just sad that we live in a world where that prejudice still exists.

[-] NotSteve_@piefed.ca 16 points 1 month ago

The term and all the other -american prefixes has always weirded me out. It feels othering with a veil of progressiveness. I often find US progressives almost loop back around to enacting segregation again

[-] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

Tbf, just using the term "American" can sometimes leave out important context. Cuz of white defaultism.

In certain places in the world, the term "American" usually gets the image of a white person in their mind, sometimes black people, but an Asian person is never in their mind. So like, if you are like on the internet, and you don't say "Asian American", people usually just assume you look like some white hillbilly in the US south.

If I'm running for office or at a polling place or if, god forbid, ICE shows up, I'm just "American", but if racial conflict is involved like if Covid and Anti-Asian hate crimes is the topic, then leaving the "Asian" part out of "Asian Americans like me are being targeted in a wave of hate crimes" would result in a meaningless sentence.

It all depends on context.

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[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

The left broadly still tip-toes so gingerly around any group or ethnicity that they trip all over each other to make sure nobody feels excluded, and ends up making an environment that feels so much like walking on eggshells that nobody wants anything to do with it other than kids who want to earn performative inclusivity badges.

I got very burned out when I was more active in a few groups and half of every meeting was just qualifiers and disclaimers instead of organized action. And in the intervening years it's gotten worse as we've lost more ground.

I get we need to have solidarity for people who don't have a voice, but I'm not sure our species broadly knows how to turn that into an actionable strategy that doesn't push away the very people we need on board, the tuned-out, short-attention-span masses who still equate leftist activism with some south park stereotype.

[-] deltaspawn0040@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 month ago

A black African American, as opposed to white African American

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago
[-] deltaspawn0040@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 month ago

That's technically true but I think if you called him African American he'd go apeshit

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

I can't imagine a conversation where he wouldn't sound apeshit.

[-] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

YES!

Let’s all refer to him as an African immigrant every time he’s mentioned, cause all immigrants are bad right? What’s good for the goose..

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[-] FatVegan@leminal.space 11 points 1 month ago

I'll never forget when a American tourist told my friend that he's glad to meet another African American, and my friend said: mate, i'm swiss

[-] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 3 points 1 month ago

Have you ever seen an algerian

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[-] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 month ago

I'm gonna start bringing a portable clothes iron around to get out the creases from activist flags, it's not a huge deal but it just always irks me a little. Their image would be even more impressive with a nice creaseless flag.

[-] BanMe@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

The cheap, thin nylon is incredibly easy to melt. I buy a new, thick Pride flag every June for my house as the old one is tattered and faded by then. Usually run it through the steam dryer 2-3 times and then hang it out on a nice hot day, and the wrinkles relax. An iron is easy to overdo it with as I learned with a cheap Trans Pride flag one year.

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[-] gjoel@programming.dev 19 points 1 month ago
[-] FundMECFS@quokk.au 12 points 1 month ago

Whether or not the grammar is technically correct he makes a good point.

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah I thought it was just "evil".

[-] thymos@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 month ago

That word struck me too, but it's in the dictionary and apparently it's from Old English "yfelnes".

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[-] SirMaple__@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 month ago
[-] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 month ago
[-] svcg 12 points 1 month ago

A black African-American person of colour, no less!

[-] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

African American? Did they or their parents recently immigrate from Africa? Are they invested in African politics? Do they at least adopt some form of African cultural identity? Otherwise, they are just Americans.

Elon Musk is more of an African American than people judged by the color of their skin given how much he has tried to push his own agendas regarding South Africa onto this administration.

[-] carotte 15 points 1 month ago

you know what "African-American" means, stop being obtuse, you just sound ridiculous

[-] Evkob@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 month ago

We all know what people mean by it; they mean "black" but are scared to say it for whatever reason.

I think criticism of the term "African-American" is valid. Most black people in America today have never been to Africa.

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[-] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

My beef is with Americans saying "I am an X American" when what they really mean is "I try to LARP as X at times in whatever my American bubble says they do". But specially with African American. It's black. Black. Black. Say it with me. Black. No negative connotation (except people's own insecurities), just a simple oversimplified label like any other of its sort.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Elon Musk is more of an African American than people judged by the color of their skin

If Musk was truly a first generation African American, he'd have been deported already.

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago

He has the White-Pass

[-] Deceptichum@quokk.au 9 points 1 month ago

I heard 20 ICE agents quit on seeing this brave display.

[-] SARGE@startrek.website 27 points 1 month ago

"you're not resisting in one of my personally approved ways, therefore it's worthless"

Big yikes

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[-] nednobbins@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Right? Who cares about flags?

I heard Francis Scott Key had a missing last verse that said, "Lol. JK. Flags are for losers."

[-] mohammed_alibi@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

I just wanna know what company is making all these flags...

[-] LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz 32 points 1 month ago

The same ones that sell the "back the blue" flags.

[-] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 month ago

I saw a flag seller in 2020 with a pole flying Trump, Biden, Jolly Roger, USSR, Bass Pro Shop, Weimar Germany, My Little Pony, ACAB, they are the true centrists of our time.

[-] nomy@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago

Can't really blame the guy. Being a flag seller was his lifelong dream and nobody buys flags like ideologies.

[-] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago
[-] FatTony@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Props to him, but the text on the shirt is a little forced.

[-] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 month ago

"evil" would had sufficed.

[-] carotte 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

lemmy when someone makes a performative display of resistance online: 😄😁👍

lemmy when someone makes a display of resistance IRL (the person is Black): 😡😒👎🏻

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago
[-] carotte 3 points 1 month ago

look at the comments under this post, they’re full of animosity and snark towards that person

compare them to any post negative of ICE on this platform and you won’t see that same energy

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

I see only one directed towards that person, sort of, and it's heavily downvoted.

70% are complaining about the title.

[-] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Love the pearl clutching from the "let's go Brandon" crowd.

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