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[-] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 132 points 1 week ago

All intersex people with ovaries, according to JKR: women.

I suspect she'd actually be quite angry at the amount of male-presenting people (complete with penises) that she just affirmed are women.

Its almost like this is a complicated topic that can't be boiled down to black and white by bigots.

[-] carotte 49 points 1 week ago

i don’t think she’d care too much, honestly

remember, she had no problems calling Imane Khelif a man, despite her being a (possibly intersex) cis woman

We have the technology to turn any one of your cells into pluripotent stem cells, and then differentiate them into ovarian tissues and eggs.

therefore I propose that we get samples of male transphobes, grow eggs from them, therefore transing them by their definition, also we can make sperm from JKR so she can go fuck herself

[-] degen@midwest.social 4 points 1 week ago

Pluribus is really doing some Baader-Meinhof shit to me with pluripotency, I swear

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[-] TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip 71 points 1 week ago

So, according to her… there are no human women? After birth humans do not produce eggs.

[-] lemmyseikai@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

Given the nature of her trauma induced bigotry, I doubt she has the biological knowledge required to be aware of this simple fact.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

What trauma caused her to be a bigot? Never heard that before now

[-] lemmyseikai@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago
[-] SARGE@startrek.website 25 points 1 week ago

I know several women who have survived domestic abuse and assaults.

Almost none of them are bigots. The only couple I can think of that are were shitty humans before they got married.

I think she has just always been trash.

[-] lemmyseikai@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Are you saying I’m making a hasty generalization?

I’m not claiming “survivors become bigots.” I’m talking about this case: it’s plausible her assault left her with fear that she later converted into ideology. Becoming extremely wealthy then gave her the platform and the insulation to reinforce that fear in an echo chamber until it hardened into vitriol. None of which removes her responsibility.

Bigots come from all kinds of backgrounds for all kinds of reasons. In her case, trauma + power + echo-chambering instead of healing seems like a plausible pathway.

And to be clear: none of us has the information to know whether she held these views before the assault, and we definitely can’t know the counterfactual of who she would’ve become without it.

[-] SARGE@startrek.website 8 points 1 week ago

No, I'm saying "trauma induced bigotry" isn't a thing.

And honestly I don't care to debate whether a bigot got their bigotry honestly or if something in their life might "better explain" it, at the end of the day a bigot is a bigot.

Just because I know (insert genocidal dictator here) was mistreated as a child doesn't mean I take pity on them when they decide that's a good reason to genocide.

[-] lemmyseikai@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I agree on the moral bottom line: bigotry is bigotry, and it isn’t excused by someone’s past.

Where we disagree is whether the “why” matters. I’m not asking for pity or moral credit; I’m talking about causality because prevention requires understanding how these beliefs form and get reinforced. “Explanation” isn’t “justification.”

If you’re claiming trauma can’t be a contributing factor in any case, that’s a stronger claim than “it doesn’t excuse it,” and I don’t think it’s self-evident. Fear and threat-perception can shape ideology, and some people channel that into scapegoating. Especially so when insulated by wealth, platform, and echo chambers.

Also, bringing up genocide shifts the topic from mechanisms of prejudice to extreme hypotheticals. The point stands without that comparison.

If you don’t want to discuss causes at all, that’s your call. If so, we’re not actually disagreeing about accountability, just about whether analysis is worth doing.

[-] SARGE@startrek.website 7 points 1 week ago

I'll admit my wording could have been better, and if I'm perfectly honest I've got personal things going on at work and let my irritation show here so apologies for that.

I'm all for trying to root out potential causes, and eliminating the at their source at every possibility.

I am also of the opinion (because there is no way you could prove it to be fact) that you can throw everything she experienced at someone else and they won't be a bigot, as my own anecdotal experience says abuse doesn't lead you there.

That said, in nature vs nurture I tend to side with nurture, and therefore everything she experienced up to then may have tipped her toward bigotry and then abuse cemented her path in that direction. And once she got rich, all the people who want to be close to her will reinforce her views whether they're shitty or not.

It's a complicated mix of a lot of things but I personally don't believe that the abuse alone can ever be pointed to as "the reason"

Side note: I only bring up the genocidal dictator bit because bigots often put exactly those people and their ideals center-stage to their beliefs. Maybe not in this instance (I doubt Rowling is an actual neonazi), but "trans people should be allowed to exist" sounds exactly like "jews/uygur/out-group shouldn't be allowed to exist" to me so it seems to fit in my mind.

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[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 1 week ago

rowling is possibly not human.

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Wait 'til they learn that the ovaries and the testes differentiate from the same structures meaning technically speaking you could say trans women were born with "faulty egg producing equipment" just by virtue of it not differentiating into the correct equipment. lmao

[-] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 19 points 1 week ago

Yep, these testosterone-and-sperm-producing danglies are just faulty egg-producing equipment.

Guess I really am a lesbian after all. Guess we all are, really.

[-] witty_username@feddit.nl 28 points 1 week ago
[-] Deceptichum@quokk.au 10 points 1 week ago

Woman inherits the Earth.

[-] stray@pawb.social 3 points 1 week ago

Oh, you love women? Name every dinosaur.

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[-] Formfiller@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Why did she turn her entire brand into Hater? What a weirdo

[-] Nalivai@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Something happens to a person when they got rich. Money induced brain parasites or something

[-] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

The parasites are part of the billionaire induction ceremony.

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

transphobia is a mental illness. all bigotry is, to varying degrees, but something special about transphobia just consumes people's entire soul and personality. there's paranoid delusions that come with it, and inevitably leads to transvestigations and just falsely accusing people of being trans because that becomes literally all they think about.

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[-] termaxima@slrpnk.net 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Then everyone is a woman. Since we're going with "however faulty" ; testicles are just extremely faulty ovaries.

The only way not to be a woman is to be born with not genitalia whatsoever, according to this idiotic definition. I'm not sure that's even possible, but I don't know a lot about intersex people 🤷🏻‍♀

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

yeah I'm sure we're going to see jowling kowling rowling defend the right of intersex people with dicks to be in women's bathrooms as long as they have ovaries too.

I'm glad she regularly embarrasses herself in public now just in case you were too young to realize from her stupid writing that she's a fucking idiot.

[-] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Haters gonna hate but I would love to read a book by JK Rowling about a repressed male detective who finally establishes his masculinity through secretely developing the ability to lay eggs with his prostate and using that power to disrupt the stranglehold radical feminism had over Victorian England and usher in the era of the Modern British Family.

I wouldn't pay money for it out of principle but it would be a good page turner and well within her wheelhouse of terfdom.

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 12 points 1 week ago
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[-] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 11 points 1 week ago

What a giant, extra-crispy bucket of stupid. Here's what makes a woman: Intent.

Remember intent? It's kind of a big thing in criminal law. It's the difference between manslaughter and murder. We treat killing people very differently depending on the killer's intent. Murdering for a life insurance payout? Very bad. Manslaughter with a car? No biggie. Killing an enemy in war? Laudable.

Point is, intent matters, in this and lots of other ways. So if a person intends to be a woman, she is a woman.

(And, yes, if a hen could conceptualize and express intent to be a human woman, I say that we should consider her as such. Shit, The Android Who Wants to be Human is a well-worn sci-fi trope, so why not a biological organism, too?)

[-] DylanMc6@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 week ago

I think it's because of the black mold in her clucking brain.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 1 week ago

no wonder she so buddy buddy with musk. terf queen and king, do you think they are going to date each other soon.

[-] tomenzgg@midwest.social 10 points 1 week ago
[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Please explain what a "Hen Do" is.

[-] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago

Los Pollos Hermanos is woman?

[-] Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago

And what a hot chick she is.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

She's gorgeous and probably smells amazing.

* Alive, this isn't some roast chicken innuendo.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

No I'm here for the roast chicken innuendo

[-] NoTagBacks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago

Damn, didn't even have to pluck the feathers off this one.

[-] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 week ago

I mean, the cocks don't lay eggs. 🤷

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[-] biggeoff@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

Jokes aside, the picture is a beautiful lady. Sleek feathers and healthy!

[-] hedge_lord@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

If it falls within my typology, or if it's meant to fall within my typology, then it falls within my typology. QED

[-] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Here is some rare footage of a giant woman

https://youtu.be/wo9wU6I2Dp4

[-] Akasazh@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

There's little philosophic content in this zitter screenshot.

I like Rowling getting owned like any other, but this is as philosophic as Alex Jones

[-] Deceptichum@quokk.au 15 points 1 week ago

It’s Diogenes “Behold - a man!”.

Not every meme can be a deep dive into philosophical references, we need some lighter stuff from time to time.

[-] Akasazh@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago
[-] Angelevo@feddit.nl 3 points 1 week ago

Structurally, a sperm kinda resembles a smaller hyperactive egg with a tail happily looking for the best cuddle. This would mean we produce some sort of eggs. Ergo: Men, too, are women!

Creative thinking with faulty logic is.. well. Hilarious sometimes, I guess. Damaging, way more. The unspoken will get back to you on this.

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