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cloudfare bad (lemmy.ml)
submitted 1 year ago by RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml to c/memes@lemmy.ml
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[-] HadManySons@lemmy.bond 181 points 1 year ago

Only if you don't know what Cloudlfare does. It protects against all kinds of attacks.

[-] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago

My negative experiences as an end user take priority over any positive experience told to me by a third party in a usage case that doesn't apply to me.

[-] hai@lemmy.ml 52 points 1 year ago

Most of the time that a site is using Cloudflare you’ve likely not noticed and it has improved your experience.

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[-] arudesalad@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 year ago

If cloudflare wasn't a thing your negative experiences as an end user would be worse

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Your experience as an end user is only available because cloudflare exists. That's why your end user opinion doesn't matter, because bad actors are constantly trying to ruin the internet and cloudflare is the gatekeeper. As a server owner I need security at the door to keep our illegal activity. Your opinion of "I don't like security at the door" is dually noted and immediately thrown away.

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[-] txmyx@feddit.de 97 points 1 year ago

What?? I thought cloudflare is good. Free Ddos protection, etc.

[-] greyscale@lemmy.sdf.org 59 points 1 year ago

Single point of failure for the whole internet.

[-] mvirts@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't call clourflare a single point.

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[-] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

If cloudflare goes down you can just update DNS to not use it …

[-] kautau@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Agreed, and I would say what cloudflare does for the internet (their work on the IETF, generally letting small sites stay alive without needing an SRE to worry about DDoS attacks, etc) outweighs the general negative possibility of them being a potential single point of failure

[-] 30p87@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago

Well the admin of a site could opt out of using cloudflare for the time being, a user could do literally nothing. Errors in Cloudflare can easily take down their servers and therefore the CDN and access to like 20% of websites. And Bugs in Cloudflare can even leak user data.

So cloudflare can grant DDOS Protection, CDNs and other exploiting protection, but can take down large parts of everything, temporarily or permanently.

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[-] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

We use their CDN, and they do our load balancing for work and they’re great at it.

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[-] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 61 points 1 year ago

O.o Do you understand what Cloudflare actually does?

[-] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago

Provides a single point of failure for a large portion of the internet that nobody else has any control over?

[-] AFaithfulNihilist@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago

Using cloudflare is more reliable than using your own stuff which is still an option that nobody chooses anymore because it's better to choose cloudflare or something similar.

I'm going to go ahead and assume you don't work with internet security in any way, have no experience in web development, and have never attempted to provide web application services to more people than you can count on your fingers, but if you had, cloudflare is mana from heaven.

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[-] InvaderDJ@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago

Honestly, I don't know how any end user who doesn't understand IT and wasn't around before services like Cloudflare were available can say this. They objectively don't have the information or experience to make the claim.

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[-] dill@lemmy.one 36 points 1 year ago

Throwback to when 1.1.1.1 dropped and we all loved couldflare

[-] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago
[-] AFallingAnvil@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago
[-] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What ever bud, y'all aren't trying hard enough. I've been on the fuck CloudFlare train for ten years. Centralizing surveillance SPOF can eat a bag of dicks.

[-] IzzyData@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 year ago

Cloudflare is having some weird issues with Discord this morning.

[-] DarkenLM@artemis.camp 12 points 1 year ago

So it wasn't just me. Good to know.

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[-] kn33@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Idk, but my homelab thanks it for the free ZTN and workers.

[-] Krafting@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

I want to upvote and downvote this post.. it's so controversial

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[-] kubica@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

"So you solved the catcha, ok, we don't care anyway."

[-] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago

"Solve 5 more because you're using a vpn."

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[-] sirico@feddit.uk 13 points 1 year ago

Literally trying to figure out if Cloudflare or tailscale would be the best way to go. The memes have spoken

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[-] soulfirethewolf@lemdro.id 8 points 1 year ago

I really think that on the list of worst single points of failure, DNS is not one of them. Given how easy it is to actually switch. And given that cloudflare outages are not nearly as common, The times they do happen usually are only for half an hour or so.

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