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cloudfare bad (lemmy.ml)
submitted 1 year ago by RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml to c/memes@lemmy.ml
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[-] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago

My negative experiences as an end user take priority over any positive experience told to me by a third party in a usage case that doesn't apply to me.

[-] hai@lemmy.ml 53 points 1 year ago

Most of the time that a site is using Cloudflare you’ve likely not noticed and it has improved your experience.

[-] taanegl@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You're all circle jerking around the problem. Proxy DNS and CDN's should be decentralised into standard protocols and not centralised into one company, for what should be obvious reasons (privacy being one of them).

I use CloudFlare on my websites and I feel like I don't have a choice. The fact that it's free to use proxy DNS is the kicker here, and the big selling point behind the DDoS protections. But the milliseconds CF DNS and page caching shave off page loads is also dangerous, because now it becomes mandatory if your websites are actually competing against someone else.

Again: this is a single entity, a single point of failure and in effect a monopoly. We don't just get to use it, we have to use it.

Of course one can't complain unless one has made an effort to do something about it, like I dunno, make a national version of CloudFlare?

Mwahahahaha! Didn't like that one, did you?!? Soon that will be mandatory and departments that investigate will honeypot your ass when they need a some justification for taking your in for a little private interrogation... wait, no, GO BACK!!

Okay, so protocols. Hard as fuck, static as hell. Yes? But, decentralised. Si? DNS proxying and content caches are staples of the modern internet. Content go quick, content go real quick ya. All we need to do is figure out a way to facilitate those things without having to rely on a single company, government body or even access to the many nodes that comprise the internet.

We used to write spec, damnit! We must return to the source. I have been some schmuck on the internet and this was my TL;DR.

I don't like how you say it, but what you say is true. Truth is hard to hear, sometimes.

[-] arudesalad@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 year ago

If cloudflare wasn't a thing your negative experiences as an end user would be worse

[-] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago
[-] ObamaBinLaden@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Why do you doubt that my man?

Your experience as an end user is only available because cloudflare exists. That's why your end user opinion doesn't matter, because bad actors are constantly trying to ruin the internet and cloudflare is the gatekeeper. As a server owner I need security at the door to keep our illegal activity. Your opinion of "I don't like security at the door" is dually noted and immediately thrown away.

[-] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

"You only know about the bad thing because the bad thing exists" what a compelling argument. Did you know water makes things wet because it's wet?

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