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submitted 1 year ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

A government shutdown increasingly looks inevitable as GOP opponents of a stopgap in the Senate seek to drag out the process ahead of a midnight Sunday deadline.

Opponents of the Senate stopgap, which is backed by leaders in both parties, are delaying a vote to give the House a chance to pass its own continuing resolution to fund government.

Senate conservatives want to give Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) more leverage to negotiate spending cuts and changes to immigration policy, leverage that would diminish if the Senate jams the House by moving first and passing a relatively clean stopgap.

It’s unclear if House Republicans will be able to rally around their own funding measure or if McCarthy would put the Senate bill up for a vote in the House once it passes the upper chamber.

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[-] teamevil@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

I hope air traffic controllers stay home and we remember it's the dumbass Republican's fault. Stop negotiating with terrorists it's NEVER enough. Like a crazy ex

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah. You just need to make sure that the Representatives are stuck in Washington when it happens.

[-] scripthook@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

All goverment shutdowns under Democratic control happened for 1 day. The Republicans caused Government shutdowns in 1995/1996 for 21 days in an attempt to cut medicare and social security, 2013 for 16 days in order to attempt to cut Obamacare and 2018/2019 for 35 days in order to build a border wall. I don't even know what the Republicans want now. They are too busy fighting for themselves. But this will backfire on them.

[-] Delusional@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

You say that but they'll just blame Democrats for it anyways and their idiotic voters will believe every fuckin word like the simpletons they are.

[-] sirboozebum@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

That didn't work for 2020.

[-] GreenMario@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

If it shuts down fire them all and do a new election, with everyone that was there blacklisted.

[-] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

government shutdown appears inevitable

---the people who could evit it

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago

So the last one got resolved when protestors shut down LaGuardia and Trump blinked. What ends it this time? How bad do things need to get before the MAGAts balk?

[-] schwim@reddthat.com 4 points 1 year ago

Good. None of them are helping anyone they're representing and we're likely better off without them.

[-] MicroWave@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

A shutdown is not good, regardless of how you feel about these politicians. Literally millions of federal employees would be without their paychecks

A shutdown that would halt pay for military families and government workers comes at a particularly precarious time for many households that are already struggling financially.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/government-shutdown-federal-workers-lose-pay-military-rcna116891

[-] UristMcHolland@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I was in Army basic training during the last government shutdown. What that meant for us was no busses to take us to ranges for training. No hot meals in the defac (cafeteria). Extremely limited ammunition for training. So we matched miles upon miles all over the base to get where we needed to go, pretended we had the ammo for the exercise and then we would march home and eat an MRE (meal ready to eat). 2 or 3 MREs a day for about 2 weeks straight. Shit sucked.

[-] GreenMario@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

And most of you voted Republican afterwards.

You get what you fuckin deserve!

[-] Nobsi@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago

How the fuck do you think you can say that? Youre not on his base. Youre not even in the force.
Get back into your basement and argue with others about what OS is best.

[-] Wahots@pawb.social 2 points 1 year ago

It also has unintended effects on the nonfederal workforce too. Losing even more FAA staff cannot be good in addition to everything else the goverment orchestrates, funds, or builds. A long shutdown might affect the border, getting passports, student loans, rural hospitals that depend on Medicare funding, SNAP, etc...

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

I for one appreciate having a food and drug association, environmental protection agency, and occupational health and safety administration. Partly because I’ve read about what it was like without them.

[-] schwim@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago

Ahh yes, the wonderful protective measures of the FDA and EPA. We're definitely lucky to have them on our side.

[-] BertramDitore@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

These agencies have definitely made their fair share of mistakes/coverups and have had plenty of corrupt staff, but the overall quality of our health, food, air, and water would be significantly worse without them. I hate cliches, but we can’t let perfect be the enemy of good. For the most part, the scientists and bureaucrats that work at these agencies do their best with the extremely limited resources we give them. Their best is not perfect, but it is SO much better than nothing.

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 13 points 1 year ago

Are you 12?

[-] Nillerus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 year ago

They're going to furlough about a million federal workers, rejoin after a couple of days or weeks, the GDP will drop another 0.2%, and that's that.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

We’re also potentially going to lose financial credit. One of our strengths as a nation was at one point that we were always good for the money we borrowed. Shutdowns compromise that and with it our dominance as a currency and trading partner.

[-] GreenMario@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Most of those employees vote Republican so they can all suck my dick and my balls. Starve or get a real job, bitch. No handouts for Republicans!

[-] Nobsi@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

Most federal employees have realer jobs than you.

[-] urist 1 points 1 year ago

Parts of the government that will shut down include popular DOI departments that a lot of people appreciate: FDA, national park service, EPA, United States geological survey, etc etc

You know, government researchers and ecologists. People that overwhelmingly do not vote republican.

These shut downs hurt civil servants that are the actual machinery that makes the government work, while congress has their collective feet in their collective asses a lot of the time.

It’s deeply wasteful. Federal employees get backpaid for shutdown time. The government still has to meet contractual obligations. Work is left unfinished.

Might feel like schadenfreude, but you’re totally off base of you think the government employs primarily republican voters. The US government is larger than the DoD (by the way, the military will still be paid through the shutdown most likely).

[-] DBT@artemis.camp 1 points 1 year ago

(by the way, the military will still be paid through the shutdown most likely).

They weren’t during the last one. What’s different this time?

[-] urist 1 points 11 months ago

Ah, I am probably wrong. My husband was in the military during a shutdown, and I remember he was paid, but now I remember it was our credit union that covered his paychecks.

I remember it not being a problem, pay-check wise, for other people. We all probably banked through the same credit union, though (navy federal).

[-] gsf@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

It's just our legislators helping to kick off Striketober! But seriously this is a terrible pain in the ass for anyone who actually depends on government services (which on some level is pretty much all of us).

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