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submitted 11 months ago by FlyingSquid@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

Planned Parenthood Great Plains is holding a free two-day vasectomy clinic next month, and all the spots filled up in less than 48 hours.

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[-] GregoryTheGreat@programming.dev 85 points 11 months ago

I got one 2 years ago. Super easy and much less pain than kids. I felt like I got kicked in the balls 10 minutes ago for a few days. Worth it.

Don’t make your ladies have a more invasive surgery. Just get it done.

[-] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 39 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I had mine 14 years ago 100% free all thanks to Plan Parenthood. No pain for me and I was back in action after 5 days. Wife at time had no problem giving me the 20 our so releases I needed to make sure I was clesn of active sperm.

So after doctors said I was clean said goodbye to condoms and never been freeier.

They say you can get easily reverse so see no reason why women should suffer under a horrible surgery and be out of action for 6 to 8 weeks. When it takes 30 minutes and all well in 5 days.

Fyi mine also done here in Oklahoma but Tulsa area. I had to wait only 2 months for a slot.

[-] Zoboomafoo@lemmy.world 47 points 11 months ago

They say you can get easily reverse

That's not true, reversal is much more invasive and not guaranteed to work

[-] GregoryTheGreat@programming.dev 16 points 11 months ago

Yeah I got warned it wasn’t a 100% reversible.

[-] sharkfinsoup@lemmy.ml 16 points 11 months ago

Yeah when I got it done, my doctor told me to consider this as permanent procedure even though it is possible to reverse it. They want you to make this decision without the idea that a reversal is quick and easy or even possible

[-] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

They told me it be less likely that I could reproduce the longer I had it but I was assured it was easily reversed. Not that matter I am not interested in having any more kids.

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[-] Unaware7013@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago

I was more upset that I had to wait the full 6 months to test, but it didn't matter since I failed the first time anyway...

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I agree, but the sad part is this is being done because abortion is illegal there now. It's being done out of desperation, not because someone wants it done.

[-] GregoryTheGreat@programming.dev 26 points 11 months ago

Whatever gets fewer kids into the world I support.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago

I understand the sentiment, but supporting this is sort of conceding the anti-abortion laws are there to stay and I don't think we should accept that.

If you want to get a vasectomy, fine. That's a personal choice. But the reason so many men are signing up for a free vasectomy isn't because it's a good financial deal. It's because we're losing the fight and we need to start winning it again.

[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 12 points 11 months ago

I completely agree about the need to fight for our bodily autonomy. I'm old and postmenopausal even if I hadn't yeeted the uterus years ago. But I am appalled that my daughters don't have even the meager protection of Rowe v Wade.

There's a tiny bit of my soul that is gratified however by the way more men are starting to step up and take on the responsibility of pregnancy prevention.

[-] aidan@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

Anti-natalism definitely the most empathetic ideology and not at all misanthropic

[-] kibiz0r@midwest.social 8 points 11 months ago

Fewer unwanted kids, I can get behind.

If you’re talking about global sustainability, it’s a little more complicated than just “less is better”.

[-] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago

Please expound on the complexity.

[-] aidan@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Well a lot of social safety nets require on a continually growing work force, of course they could be removed but that will never happen. Immigration is also a good solution but it's unclear if in many places that will ever be expanded. But furthermore, there is no reason to stop people having kids in most situations.

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[-] kibiz0r@midwest.social 3 points 11 months ago

Here's a few things to consider, but I'm hardly the person to give an authoritative list.

  • What are our quality of life targets?

We can support a crapton more people if we all go Amish. We gotta reduce growth to a global lottery system 30 years ago if we want everyone in the world to live like a median American.

This isn't a one-size-fits-all-age answer, either. People need more resources as they get older, and contribute less work in return. An aging population means more economic stress on the younger population, and less economic output relative to each senior citizen means less access to medical care.

  • What are our sustainability targets?

Some things are getting bad faster than others, some things are closer to breaking points, etc.

  • How much do we want to bet on degrowth vs. innovation?

If we assume only tiny incremental improvements for centuries to come, then we're preparing for something very different than if we're trying to keep research investment steady or even accelerate progress on things like fusion, carbon removal, microplastics remediation, and power distribution and storage.

  • What policies are on or off the table?

Some philosophies say that limiting a person's reproduction is categorically immoral, even if the predictable consequence is that everyone dies. Some TESCREAL dudes say we should use nukes cuz the ends justify the means.

  • How do we mobilize these policies?

We have lived experience that an aging population isn't great for getting effective policy in place.

  • What about the political fallout?

Population change policies certainly won't be done globally in lockstep, which means in order to stabilize local economies, there will be more immigration for places where the internal population growth is slowing/reversing. That can easily lead to xenophobia, which could destabilize everything. It's hard to fight global climate change when you're dealing with local fascism.

etc.

That's why I can pretty much only reliably say "people who don't want kids... not being forced to have kids... is an unambiguously good thing" and I can't extend that to people who do want kids.

[-] Nerrad@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

Best thing I ever did.

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 6 points 11 months ago

I agree that ladies shouldn’t have to get the much more invasive surgery, but I’ve never met a woman who regretted her hysterectomy.

[-] Wollang@sh.itjust.works 26 points 11 months ago

Most women who’ve had a hysterectomy have likely had a severe debilitating medical issue related to the uterus and so removing it probably makes them feel the most free they’ve been in a long time.

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[-] vivadanang@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

Don’t make your ladies have a more invasive surgery. Just get it done.

word, the differences in their longterm health outcomes are ridiculous with hysterectomy. We still get our testosterone and dangly bits, we just, er, cut the swimmers off at the pass. not having to worry about condoms / bc / etc? priceless.

[-] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

That is if you can find a doctor who will give a recommendation for one. My partner has endometriosis and has wanted an oblation for a while but nobody will give her the ok cuz she's in her 30's and "she could still have kids if she wanted to."

I thought stuff like that was a meme but she can't find anyone. The first doctor I met with just wanted me to know a vasectomy was permanent and he gave me some vallium. $200 and 20 minutes was all it took for me and she's STILL looking to get an oblation :/

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 28 points 11 months ago

Went in, doctor numbed my balls without an injection, opened with laser, snip snip, cauterized the ends, clip on as a safety, apply some glue to close the openings, 10 minutes total, here's a Coke to put some sugar in you, buhbye!

[-] figaro@lemdro.id 13 points 11 months ago

Free coke? I'm listening...

[-] Neeen@sh.itjust.works 25 points 11 months ago

Fuck man mine was 4k good for these guys

[-] irish_link@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago

Damn man, I got lucky and insurance took care of most of it.

This is going to sound condescending but i mean it. Good for you for being happy for these dudes instead of upset about it.

Too many times (especially recently) i see people angry that others get something they didn't. Its nice to see and restores my faith in humanity when i read things or hear things like your comment.

Thanks man, i really needed that.

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[-] Sho@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago

Wanted one since I was 18, finally got it at 36. Couldn't be happier

[-] LurkNoMore@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

You know those water balloon toys with the hose hook up? It fills about 20 small water balloons and you have to sorta jiggle the hose to get the balloons to slide off.

Well, it felt like the doctor was pulling a hose on a mini version if this inside my boys.

Was legit horrible experience.

Don't let anyone fool you. Sooooo glad it's done.

[-] CraigeryTheKid@lemm.ee 14 points 11 months ago

I don't know man, that doesn't seem right. During my procedure, the actual "surgery", I felt almost nothing.

I DID however, have intense soreness for several days after. But the procedure wasn't bad.

Conclusion full agree - so much freedom, would do again, 5/5.

[-] Wayren@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

My experience was pretty similar to yours. Really no pain and recovery wasn't even that bad.

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[-] tim-clark@kbin.social 15 points 11 months ago

Got it 2 decades ago. Downside is my balls hang lower. Which has caused discomfort riding bikes. Finding the right underwear has been crucial for comfort. The other pain is my balls hitting the water, I don't like toilet water on my balls

[-] Kraiden@kbin.social 50 points 11 months ago

I suspect the 2 decades might have more to do with your balls hanging lower than the vasectomy lol

[-] tim-clark@kbin.social 8 points 11 months ago

noticed the lower hanging balls immediately. Couple of my friends have the same experience post vasectomy m, balls hang lower. Granted I already had grandad balls at 24 when I got snipped. Definitely could get some puppetry going

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[-] 0110010001100010@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

I don’t like toilet water on my balls

Does anybody? lol

[-] zaph@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

Maybe on a hot day

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[-] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

Got mine about a year ago. Way less painful than I expected. Totally worth it.

[-] Kraiden@kbin.social 10 points 11 months ago

I think my experience was pretty non typical, but ye, I did NOT have a good time.

Long story short, there was student in the room, so instead of just getting it over with as quickly as possible, my guy was EXCRUCIATINGLY slow to numb me, and not before he'd shown her how to enter the fucking konami code into my nutsack. At one point I actually sat up and asked just what the fuck he was doing, because I was in so much discomfort. It probably lasted 15 - 20 minutes total, but it felt like eternity.

Other than that, it was fine though. Felt like I'd been kicked in the nuts for a few days afterwards, but then it was all good. Still got a month to go before I get the all clear though.

[-] Bbbbbbbbbbb@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Bro dont wait a month. If you feel Ok to do it, crank that hog and clear them splooge tubes. Make the doctor doing your spunk check say "your specimen sample is 100% clear for Adult Swim only"

[-] Kraiden@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago

Lol, I meant another month before I can get tested. I was back at it the next day.

[-] JCreazy@midwest.social 8 points 11 months ago

I've always wanted one of those switches where I can flip it on and if at will. I heard about that years ago, but I don't know if it ever actually became a real thing. I'm single and 36 so it would be perfect for me. I'm glad that people are getting a snip for free though.

[-] misterundercoat@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

While a ball valve is more durable and provides a tight seal, opening and closing will cause an abrupt change in pressure that can strain your system. A gate valve will allow for more granular pressure regulation, but is prone to leakage and degradation of the valve stem over time.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Just this week at work we are having a problem at a customer site with some ball valves not sealing. I am thinking it might be fet-driven instead of relay driven and just doesn't have the current needed for the last part. Seen them do that before.

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[-] legios@aussie.zone 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Mine was... A couple of hundred in AUD? And managed to get it at 31 too. Knew I never ever wanted kids, had a letter from my psych and the doctor asked me a few questions and said "Yeah, I get it..."

Snip snip, some pain for about 5 days and all done. Don't regret it one bit.

edit: Mine is technically reversible but from what I read the chances of that being successful drops each year.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

You need a letter from a psychiatrist in order to get a vasectomy in Australia?

[-] legios@aussie.zone 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Nah, but was keeping it safe/covering my bases given my age. And it was from my psychologist not psychiatrist (should have clarified).

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[-] mojo@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago

Hopefully the lifted truck driver riding my ass is heading over there

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