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[-] cabbage@piefed.social 168 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The admins over there have some profoundly questionable views, which tends to push away reasonable people and attract bootlickers.

The problem is not the users as much as the site itself and its admins. I wish reasonable people (not bootlickers) would stop using lemmy.ml and go somewhere better. Lemmy.ml's biggest function right now is to scare away good people who would have been happy elsewhere.

[-] muxika@lemmy.ml 37 points 8 months ago

Having an ideological focus for an entire instance feels like a major mistake. I can understand one admin having that take, but not the whole team. Thanks for the heads up.

[-] cabbage@piefed.social 72 points 8 months ago

I think instances with ideological underpinnings is fine, and maybe inevitable. The crucial thing is that they need to be honest about it, so that those not interested can go elsewhere.

The problem with lemmy.ml is that it pretends to be a catch-all instance when it's in fact very much not, and that it doesn't tell users up front what it's all about. Both Hexbear and Lemmygrad are better in that respect—at least they're honest.

[-] echolalia@lemmy.ml 19 points 8 months ago

Part of the sign up process I went through was to copy a line from something Marx wrote (can't remember now I'm a bad communist) to be approved for an account.

Maybe it wasn't like that in the past but it was made clear in the sign up processs that the admins are ML communists and run their instance with those beliefs informing their moderation decisions.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 8 months ago
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[-] nithou@piefed.social 23 points 8 months ago

Learned about this today, was mainly on lemmy.ml because lemmy.world was blocking too much instances -_- Now trying piefed.social

[-] marx@piefed.social 14 points 8 months ago

I've enjoyed piefed a lot so far. I think it's a good choice.

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[-] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 8 months ago

Biggest issue is that said admins are the lemmy devs. .ml is their test instance.

[-] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 133 points 8 months ago

.ml is the official one created by the lemmy guys, who are tankies, and that instance has a lot of tankie opinions and bad takes.

[-] pilferjinx@piefed.social 93 points 8 months ago

Tankies traditionally but more recently pro-Russian imperial fascists, ruZi if you will.

[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 44 points 8 months ago
[-] pilferjinx@piefed.social 31 points 8 months ago

I'd like to fully agree, but modern Russia is not even close to the old school soviet which they idolize.

[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 53 points 8 months ago

Also true, which makes their modern Russia apologia that much more baffling. Well, not really, as any US adversary is good in their eyes.

[-] angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 23 points 8 months ago

Is Russia even a US adversary anymore?

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[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It's only baffling if you don't listen to the actual reasons people believe things and just assume it's because Russia used to be socialist, regardless of how many people say otherwise.

Liberals will refuse to listen to our explanations of our positions and then call our positions bizarre and indecipherable. Because you get your understanding of our positions from stories you make up and pass around about us that have no basis in reality.

[-] davidagain@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

I know I shouldn't bite, and it'll all end in tears, but this bait is too tempting!

if you don’t listen to the actual reasons people believe things and just assume it’s because Russia used to be socialist

What, specifically is good about specifically Russia as it is nowadays, from a leftist perspective, that isn't because it used to be socialist?!

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[-] phar@lemmy.world 97 points 8 months ago

I was just banned from there because I said The Invasion into Ukraine is murdering people. They called me a fascist because I kept saying I don't agree with murdering people.

[-] village604@adultswim.fan 67 points 8 months ago

That's because they think Ukrainians are Nazis because Putin said so.

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[-] muxika@lemmy.ml 32 points 8 months ago

Welp, that feels like a red flag. Thanks for the info.

[-] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 12 points 8 months ago

Weird, there's no history in your mod log.

[-] phar@lemmy.world 24 points 8 months ago

I'm banned so I am on another instance.

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[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 9 points 8 months ago

If someone says something happened on the fediverse without providing a link, they're lying.

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[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 61 points 8 months ago

Everything that is critical of China or Russia is cia propaganda. Everything their sources say is unquestionable truth. That sums up my experience

[-] watson@lemmy.world 53 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

After four days on that instance, have you not figured it out for yourself yet?

You will, eventually

Edit: a bit of instant-hopping is not unusual in the beginning. Part of the Lemmy experience is finding an instance where you feel comfortable. That might take a while and more than a few attempts.

[-] TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip 43 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Just a side note
The instance you’re on doesn’t really matter very much if you never read the local feed. If you do, you’ll definitely notice the local vibe sooner or later.

If you’re on an instance that is widely defederated, you may also notice that it’s difficult to find communities. Also, people may comment on your instance if it happens to be particularly notorious. The server hardware and bandwidth may also matter in some extreme cases.

Other than that, instances don’t really matter that much.

[-] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 16 points 8 months ago

The instance matters if you post about anything political. If your instance admins don’t like your posts, they will delete your account. Mods and admins of other instances can only ban you.

[-] watson@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

To clarify, the instance only matters if that instance is, itself, inherently political (many ARE). There are many other instances which are apolitical and don’t censor posts based on political bias, unless it is especially extreme, but those are exceptions that are explained when it occurs, which is rarely.

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[-] EldritchFeminity 15 points 8 months ago

There are some exceptions to this. Blahaj blocks downvotes, for example. You can downvote a post on Blahaj, but people (like me) with accounts on Blahaj cannot downvote nor can they see downvotes. I'm sure there are other instances doing similar things, as it sounds like Lemmy has a robust set of instance settings/options.

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[-] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 8 points 8 months ago

If you’re on an instance that is widely defederated

Or one that widely defederates.

I believe mander is the only instance that has a policy of only defederating illegal content.

In contrast .world has a huge de-federation list.

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[-] muxika@lemmy.ml 16 points 8 months ago

No, I don't think 4 days is enough to distinguish between a user's hot take and an instance's position. I didn't focus on the local feed, so I wouldn't have known. Most of the posts I've seen have been centered on Linux and privacy.

As I keep scrolling, though, I can see some troubling posts.

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[-] remon@ani.social 30 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Because of the way they are.

[-] hanrahan@piefed.social 24 points 8 months ago

I am subbed to quite a few communities over there, zero issues for me.

[-] falseWhite@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

It took me maybe a week to figure out that I don't want to be there and why.

If you haven't figured it out yet, you either need more time or you are just like the .ml gang and that's your home.

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