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[-] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 31 points 2 days ago

She ain’t wrong. But think about the shareholders.

[-] Obi@sopuli.xyz 17 points 2 days ago

That's the thing though, even for shareholders it would be better.

[-] P1k1e@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

But they don't THINK it would be better, so it won't short term. Which is what truly matters

[-] village604@adultswim.fan 10 points 2 days ago

Not if you only think 1 quarter at a time

[-] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 49 points 2 days ago

My boss give us shit if we call off for being sick. It's such a toxic environment and I hate it

[-] Aeao@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago

I was the exact opposite kind of boss and got great results.

“I don’t care why I care how often”

At least I would get advanced notice when people weren’t afraid to call me.

Also when I called around to fill shifts I wouldn’t guilt trip people “can you cover for bill? No? Okay thanks for answering “

The other bosses would call me to call their employees because they would answer me. One of my favorites was calling another boss and saying “Claire’s going to come in”. “What? She told me she couldn’t make it!!!”

“If I were you I wouldn’t mention that when she comes in. Just be happy the shift is filled”

Respect goes both ways at work. I got more work out of my team than anybody because I had their back as much as they had mine.

[-] village604@adultswim.fan 10 points 2 days ago

When I worked in big box retail we were only allowed to call in sick 2 days in a row. Once I had food poisoning from bad oysters, so I tried to call in on the third day.

Of course, they told me I couldn't. So I dragged my ass out of bed, chugged a bottle of OTC antinausea syrup, drove to work, walked into my boss's office, grabbed her trashcan, and threw up in it.

Suddenly I was allowed to call in sick.

[-] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

What a fuckin power move. Way to go, my guy!

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 days ago

Literally toxic if everyone has to show up sick

[-] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

I am immunocompromised and started wfh full time because everyone was coming in sick. I sacrificed advancing my career here so I wouldn't get sick all the time. Full time wfh folks don't get to advance and get demoted to the lowest position in the company. I was already at the lowest position so I had nothing to lose.

Yes, I'm looking for a new job already. The market is abysmal right now, so I don't see me getting out of this job any time soon.

[-] luciferofastora@feddit.org 6 points 2 days ago

Good luck with the job hunt, and even more with staying healthy

[-] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago
[-] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago

I had a disciplinary for calling in sick, the most recent time I was "nearly dying" from the flu.

Ive got it in writing somewhere from the meeting report "I had the flu the other week and still made it in, just take 2 paracetamol and get on with it" and "the flu isnt contagious so you didnt have to worry about infecting other staff"

Next time that piece of paper surfaces im getting it framed.

[-] Honytawk@feddit.nl 9 points 2 days ago

Next time come into office and cough all over your boss and their desk.

[-] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

I wfh full time so I don't get sick from my coworkers coming in ill. I'm immunocompromised, so if I get sick enough, I could just die. The whole company, except me, has been dealing with covid for the past two weeks. Last time I had covid, I was almost hospitalized, and that was before I was put on immunosuppressants. I could very well die from covid now

[-] LuxSpark@lemmy.cafe 131 points 2 days ago

Yep, and we could solve traffic and a lot of other problems as well as making things better for workers by making WFH standard. I remember around covid I could zip downtown no problem, now the roads are fucking parking lots. I have to spend hours a week doing the most dangerous activity at my own expense. I think it's mostly because of old fashioned thinking that jobs should suck.

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 93 points 2 days ago

at my own expense

I reckon if companies were required to pay you for your commute (or, let's say, a standardised one hour extra per day if being physically in the office is required, so as not to incentivise people living far from work), there'd be a lot more WFH.

[-] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 14 points 2 days ago

It's even hassle to cross the road with all these cars tbh and i almost risked life 2 times because of too much cars but whatever, capitalism must continue

[-] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

The busier it is the more likely there's this one idiota who thinks their time is worth more than yours so they forget every rule in the book and almost run people over to get somewhere "faster".

Faster is in quotes because YOU ARE RACING TO THE NEXT RED LIGHT PAL every car you jumped over is gonna meet you there...........

[-] applebusch 2 points 2 days ago

More like enjoying something is a sin. Sexual pleasure? Straight to hell. Food pleasure? Straight to hell. Get enough sleep so you don't feel like shit? Believe it or not, straight to hell. Enjoy your work? Turbo hell.

[-] MurrayL@lemmy.world 72 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

A company I used to work for switched to 4-day weeks for a time and everyone was much happier, especially those with children or other caring responsibilities. Productivity was the same or better.

But, predictably, they later did a U-turn and forced everyone back to 5-day weeks. The justification given was ‘some’ people weren’t always taking the extra day off. No figures given, no additional info.

I, and everyone else, strongly suspected it was just the C-suite not liking the idea of people getting the same pay for one day less. Purely ideological.

[-] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 68 points 2 days ago

A lot of what happens in business is performance theater, not actually being productive. It's one of the reasons bosses like AI do much, because if gives a magnificent impression of doing lots of work, even if in some cases you have to hire more people to correct that slop afterwards.

It's the same for going back to the office. They want to see the worker show being performed in the building even though working from home is usually more productive.

[-] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 25 points 2 days ago

Millennia of evolution have shown that humans thrive when they’re just sitting around and vibing with each other. As long as you don’t need anything that requires an economic surplus or specialised work force, like, say, infrastructure.

[-] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

That environment of our evolution, like the Garden of Eden, no longer exists. We’ve created a new environment in which sitting around and vibing is no longer sufficient to thrive. Without the economic output we all die. See this first episode of Connections for details.

[-] greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 days ago

How much work do we actually need to do to maintain our lifestyle? I'd say a lot less than we're currently doing. Just think about all the waste that goes into Bitcoin. What about insurance, or any number of jobs. Humans create systems (or that's what I got out of that episode of connections) but those systems are not necessarily efficient at benefiting equally.

[-] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Part of the reason I included the link to Connections was to illustrate just how many people are involved in maintaining our critical infrastructure. But of course the show can only highlight a tiny fraction of them.

You might think “oh, we don’t need insurance companies so we could eliminate all those jobs” but even if we did eliminate the insurance industry we’d have to replace a lot of the work that people at insurance companies do.

Take health insurance for example. You might say “we should get rid of health insurance and give everyone free, public health care!” Well, I live in Canada and we have free public health care. Guess what? We still have a health insurance company: the government. They do all the same jobs: receive and process health care claims, decide which treatments to cover and which to reject, and send payments to health care providers once the treatment is approved and the work has been completed. The only difference is that there’s no profit in the government system. Otherwise they’re still doing the same amount of work, so we still need all those people doing those jobs.

You might go on to say “why don’t we just eliminate the approval process and pay for every single treatment?” but that line of thinking shouldn’t get you very far. We don’t have unlimited doctors or unlimited hospital beds. There will always be far more possible treatments to give people than should be given. In the case of older people with terminal illnesses, you can spend essentially unlimited money on treatments in a desperate attempt to prolong their life… and prolong their suffering in the process.

My disagreement with the show came primary from the premise that we rely more on technology than we do on people(not sure he was trying to make that point but the whole thing about loss of electricity leading to bad anarchy leads me to interpret it that way). However I also believe that with our technology we could be very close to a post scarcity world.

We could feed everyone, house everyone, etc. at our current level of technology. Should we decide we want to increase contentment by giving people more free time we could. It's because some people value other things that we do it the way we do.

My disagreement with the show came primary from the premise that we rely more on technology than we do on people(not sure he was trying to make that point but the whole thing about loss of electricity leading to bad anarchy leads me to interpret it that way). However I also believe that with our technology we could be very close to a post scarcity world.

We could feed everyone, house everyone, etc. at our current level of technology. Should we decide we want to increase contentment by giving people more free time we could. It's because some people value other things that we do it the way we do.

How much work do we actually need to do to maintain our lifestyle? I'd say a lot less than we're currently doing. Just think about all the waste that goes into Bitcoin. What about insurance, or any number of jobs. Humans create systems (or that's what I got out of that episode of connections) but those systems are not necessarily efficient at benefiting equally.

[-] mirshafie@europe.pub 2 points 2 days ago

Hell yeah Connections is incredible.

[-] rainbowbunny@slrpnk.net 31 points 2 days ago

Unfortunately they turned schools into glorified daycares so they always say it "endanger" students to let them off early or get to school after parents go to work.

[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 days ago

Maybe sync school and work schedules? Why does this sound so crazy? It's hugely disruptive that these schedules are different.

[-] gdog05@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago

A lot of GOP politicians are trying to get kids back to work and out of school, so I guess they're technically doing their part.

[-] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

If they weren't so fucking ~~stupid~~ evil they could make a lot more money.

[-] Honytawk@feddit.nl 5 points 2 days ago

Because you can't sync all work schedules. It would create crazy traffic, even more than it is now.

That and a lot of jobs in the service sector would mean you can't go shopping after work, can't bring your car to the garage, or even get medical care at the hospital.

Schedules should be staggered instead.

[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

You can't sync all work schedules but you can match the mode.

Not sure why you think taking kids to school separately and then driving to work is less traffic?

Jobs could still be open later but maybe those jobs would be less attractive to people with kids.

It wouldn't be a world halting event. It would just mean less traffic, less money spent on childcare, and less stress for families.

France does something somewhat close to this / at least makes an effort to minimize the wide gap between work and school start and end times.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

here they staggered all the school start times so parents with lots of kids can spend their entire day dropping off and picking up kids. we'd just have them walk or bike (and i'm fine biking there, there's a bike lane), but some idiot decided to build these schools on their own little complex a mile down the highway (speed limit: 65mph/105kph)

[-] qwestjest78@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 days ago

When I finished school and had my Bachelors, the only thing I thought was, "Glad I am done with that bullshit."

I was lucky to do college debt free by going back years later and having a nest egg from years of working to pay off my costs, but so many kids go at 17 because that is what they are told to do and have debt for life from a degree that that they likely won't use because they have never worked and don't know where they want a career.

Now with AI taking away white collar jobs, I think it will be harder for kids to justify. Why would they put themselves through all that stress and work for no guarantee of a career?

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

There needs to be a correction in college attendance. Too many go and get a degree at an expensive school for a profession that has shitty wages or wide pay gaps, and poor upward mobility. Unless you’re going for a profession that needs a certification or degree, like engineer, finance, or doctor, a degree should require some serious thought. Also, for the vast majority of people, nobody cares where you got your degree after your first “real” job. Don’t go spend big bucks at a school “known” (read: we charge a lot) for whatever degree if you can find one cheaper that will do.

[-] neutronbumblebee@mander.xyz 25 points 2 days ago

Definitely students need more sleep, right through to university. According to this study humans are still adolescent from 9 till 32. Scientists identify five ages of the human brain over a lifetime Want to protect human potential ? That would be a good starting point. It's sensible even from a purely utilitarian profit focused view of study and work.

[-] NinePeedles@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Shoot, I’m definitely still a child, and I’m in my 40s! I definitely need more sleep than I’m allowed.

[-] atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone 17 points 2 days ago

My countries gouvernment has recently proposed a set of laws that would limit the maximum length of homework to 1 hour a day for 0-IV and 2 hours for V-XII
It would also make all homework for vacations optional

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

In the age of AI I don't even see how homework should even be a thing anymore.

Or if there is homework, it needs to be tailored in a way that it can't be fed into a machine and solved, it needs to be projects that lead to personal engagement and reports on what the experience was like, or group activities or something.

Or tests designed in ways that you need to have understanding of the topic to pass while in class. Basically we need a LOT more teacher involvement, but I'm speaking from a country that hates our own teachers so much that I can't blame them for sending schoolwork home and trying to be done with the day.

[-] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

Project style homework would be so much better, it's more creative and enjoyable and if you use AI it's not like you had zero input yourself like what'd happen with a worksheet for example.

Takes more time to plan this type of homework tho and idk how it'd work generally and it'd probs need to be done in small chunks idk wait am i dumb

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[-] Honytawk@feddit.nl 5 points 2 days ago

That is still 2 hours a day extra work on top of going 8 hours to school.

[-] atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Are including transport?

A school day in my country takes between 5 to 7 hours

[-] barkingspiders@infosec.pub 11 points 2 days ago

advocating "hustle culture" is often virtue signalling right? "I iz very hard worker and people should appreciate me" or something?

[-] Junkers_Klunker@feddit.dk 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I can only speak for myself, but I used to be like that because of poor mental health as hard physical work, and alcohol, kept me from facing my problems.

Edit: forming coherent sentences is apparently hard today 🙃

[-] tlekiteki@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 days ago

Because they dont want us learning

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 11 points 2 days ago

TranscriptionTweet from "Vivian" @suchnerve

love how basically every study says that students do better in school with less homework & later start times and workers do better with more vacation days & shorter shifts, but we do the exact opposite in this godforsaken country because Puritanical feelings apparently beat facts

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