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submitted 1 week ago by veggay@kbin.earth to c/linux@lemmy.ml

I finally bit the bullet and I'm giving Linux a second try, installed with dual boot a few days ago and making Linux Mint my default from now on.

There are a lot of guides and tips about the before and during the transition but not for after, so I was hoping to find some here.

Some example questions but I would like to hear any other things that come to mind:

I read that with Mint if you have a decent computer you don't need to do a swap partition? So I skipped that, but I'm not sure if I'd want to modify that swap file to make it bigger, is that just for giving extra ram if my hardware one is full? Because I have 48GB of ram and if I look into my System Monitor it says Swap is not available.

Was looking at this other post, and the article shared (about Linux security) seems so daunting, it's a lot. How much of it do I have to learn as a casual user that's not interested in meddling with the system much? Is the default firewall good enough to protect me from my own self to at least some degree? I was fine with just Windows Defender and not being too stupid about what I download and what links I click.

I was also reading about how where you install your programs or save your data matters, like in particular partitions or folders, is that just like hardcore min-maxing that's unnecessary for the average user that doesn't care to wait half a second extra or is it actually relevant? I'm just putting stuff in my Home folder.

Connected to the last two points: in that Linux Hardening Guide lemmy post I shared the TL;DR includes "Move as much activity outside the core maximum privilege OS as possible"... how do I do that? is that why people have separate partitions?

Downloaded the App Center (Snap Store) and I was surprised there was even a file saying to not allow it... why is that? Is it not recommended? Is it better to download stuff directly from their websites instead?

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[-] drascus@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 days ago

I know there is lots of guides and things because for clicks people like to write guides. However all the defaults on mint are sensible. You can pretty much install is stock and be done. You can use these guides if you want but they are optional. You can use flatpak, .deb, snap or whatever else you want to install things. I tend to use .debs when available and flatpaks as my backup. As a Linux user I haven't had to do all that much tweaking in years to be honest.

[-] utopiah@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Half a dozen people said so already but I'll repeat :

backup your stuff.

You are like a tightrope walker on a high line without security. Sure the view is amazing, yes you feel free... but a misstep and that's it.

How? Well depends what your data is but start simple, copy your most important files, e.g. family photos, personal notes, etc (NOT HD movies from the Internet... not anything you can get elsewhere) on a USB stick you go stuffed in a drawer.

Once you DO have your stuff saved though, please, pretty please DO go crazy! Have fun, try weird stuff, bork your installation... and restart from a neat safe place. It's honestly amazing to learn, so deeply empowering for yourself and those around you. Just make sure your data don't suffer from it.

[-] hanrahan@piefed.social 1 points 6 days ago

Downloaded the App Center (Snap Store) and I was surprised there was even a file saying to not allow it... why is that? Is it not recommended?

Use the inbuilt Flatpack '"store". Install what you jeed from there. occasionally you wont and you'll need to dable with the comand line. Installingng .Signal springs to mind

Dual booting with W ? W will fuck up GRUB (your dual booting sysyem) eventually. Run a Windows VM inside Mint instead

I swapped 2 years ago (moved to LMDE eventually from Mint though), and luckly i have no idea wtf I am doing.

[-] three@piefed.social 50 points 1 week ago

Best practices?

Don't copy paste commands into the terminal you don't understand.

RTFM

Use the computer like a computer. Linux is not a lifestyle; it's a tool you use to shitpost, watch videos, play games, etc.

[-] deathbird@mander.xyz 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

TFM is best found in the form of the man (manual) files, which you can see for any given program by running:

$ man program_name

Archwiki is good too, even of you don't run Arch

[-] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 25 points 1 week ago

Linux is not a lifestyle

I have to disagree about this point.

[-] veggay@kbin.earth 7 points 1 week ago

@three@piefed.social wow 5 upvotes already but the comment is quite unhelpful tbh

[-] illusionist@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Her third tip is gold. You don't hear that often. Linux doesn't have to be your life. It supports it but you don't have to live around it.

[-] veggay@kbin.earth 5 points 1 week ago

also I'm literally saying "casual". I said I'm a casual user like at least twice in there. Does that strike you like someone that needs to hear that Linux is "not a lifestyle" ?

[-] veggay@kbin.earth 3 points 1 week ago

it's also quite obvious though? Just like the other two. It's common sense with a condescending tone

[-] sixty@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

But I LOVE copy/pasting complex commands

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[-] Kory@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 week ago

One of the forums regulars, Pjotr, made this website exactly for questions like that: https://easylinuxtipsproject.removed/p/1.html

--> see "B. Right after the installation of Linux Mint"

[-] veggay@kbin.earth 18 points 1 week ago

omg thank you! that's exactly the kind of stuff I was looking for!

[-] kylian0087@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

What I suggest. Dont look at hardening yet. Only do so if you feel like your ready to touch the Internal workings of the OS. I do suggest using full disk encryption if this is a laptop.

Saving your files in your home folder just like how you did on windows is fine. Nothing wrong their.

Personally I would familiar your self with the terminal. It is not scary at all. sudo apt install program is how I would install software on mint (or any Debian based system).

Oh and above all. Use the system and try to do your normal task. See what you run in to and ask help where needed. We are here to help you along the way if needed.

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[-] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 week ago

Almost everything you do on desktop linux is already "outside the core os".

This is mostly relevant for server software configuration, where you should run services with as few system privileges as possible. Preferably you isolate them entirely with a separate user with access to only the bare minimum it needs.

This way, if a service is compromised, it can't be used to access the core system, because it never had such access in the first place. Only what it needed to do its own thing.

By default, nothing you run (web browser, steam, spotify, whatever) should be "running as admin".

The only time you'll do that on desktop linux, is when doing stuff that requires it. Such as installing a new app, or updating the system. Stuff that modifies the core os and hence needs access.

Basically, unless you needed to enter you password to run something, then it's already "outside" the core os.

[-] veggay@kbin.earth 5 points 1 week ago

ooooh I seee, thank you for explaining that!

[-] Malix@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 week ago

you can always add eg. a swap file later if needed - apparently not as good as a swap partition, but it is more flexible. With 48 GB of ram I hardly think you're going to have issues, but that depends entirely on what do you do with the system.

Firewall isn't really helping the system against you, it's to block ousiders getting in - more or less.

install locations: if you just use what's in mint's repositories, you don't really need to think about it. Out-of-repository stuff like steam games etc generally live in ~/.steam or so. Or in some dedicated path you configure in steam/whatever.

As for snap/flatpaks/whatever, haven't used a single one. But in general: I'd favor the distribution's repos, if at all possible for installs. If the app isn't there, but is in snap... fine, I guess? As long as it's managed by some kind of package manager for easy install/update/uninstall. But having to manually download and install from a website? Rather not, that's when the maintenance becomes manual.

And of course, opinions are opionated. Your system, your rules. :P

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[-] savvywolf@pawb.social 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

For the swap space, yes that's for when you run out of RAM. 48GiB is plenty of RAM, so you should be fine without it. I have 32GiB of RAM on my system and have been running without swap for ages without issue.

Hardening guides like that are mostly designed for things like web servers which are connected to the public internet and need higher scrutiny. The default configuration for distros like Mint should be secure enough for the average user.

However, don't feel invincible and run random code from random sites. Both Windows and Linux can't protect you against malicious code you run yourself.

Having organised partitions is the kind of thing that people obsessed with organisation do. For most people, the default partitioning scheme is fine. However, as always, remember to keep backups of important data.

For installing software, Mint has a Software Centre (which is distinct from the Snap Store). I'd recommend installing software using that for the average user.

In Mint, there are three main types of packages:

  • Debian/APT packages, which are provided by Mint (well, technically by the Debian distro and they trickle down to Mint, but technicalities). Not all software is available from Mint's repos and they may be out of date.
  • Flatpak packages, which are provided either by developers themselves or dedicated fans. They are usually more up to date and have a degree of sandboxing.
  • Snap packages, which are controlled by a company named Canonical. As of late, Canonical has been a bit "ehhhh", so there's pushback against Snap. Mint has it disabled and has their reasoning explained here: https://linuxmint-user-guide.readthedocs.io/en/latest/snap.html

Mint's software centre is able to install both Debian and Flatpak packages. I'd recommend using it where possible since it allows automatic upgrades and easier installation/uninstallation.

[-] veggay@kbin.earth 2 points 6 days ago

ooh thank you, that breakdown at the end was insightful!

[-] IrritableOcelot@beehaw.org 1 points 6 days ago

I would also add that the more you modify the system (PPAs, packages not installed via the package manager, nonstandard partition layouts) decreases the stability of your system and makes it harder to get back to your current system state if something goes wrong. I like to think about it like balancing a tower of blocks as a kid. Mint is the first block, and is very stable, but each additional block makes the system less and less stable. Mint itself is really stable, but if you do weird stuff the Mint devs can't do anything about it, which puts you in a bad position until you really know what you're doing.

The Snap store is intentionally left out by Mint, because they don't like how Ubuntu manages it. This means that even though the Ubuntu version Mint is based on supports Snap, there's no guarantee that snaps will work with the same stability which .deb/apt and flatpak packages will, because it hasn't been tested in Mint. I would advise against using it.

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[-] ewigkaiwelo@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Advice from personal experience as a simple user - you don't need dual boot. One machine = one system. Run win apps with wine. Win upgrades can and will break your bootloader and make you normal Linux partition unbootable. Multiboot is used by professionals for specific tasks.

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[-] TriangleSpecialist@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

EDIT: Just saw that Malik already did mention this more succinctly. Please feel free to ignore me.

ORIGINAL COMMENT: The comments here already cover a good bit, esp. with the link to Piotr's blog post.

However I don't see anyone reacting to your mention of the snap store.

If you want some details about that, you can read here: https://linuxmint-user-guide.readthedocs.io/en/latest/snap.html

But in a few words, distributing software is kinda of a mess in Linux at first glance, for various technical reasons.

To caricature, you used to only install the packages from your distribution (mint for you) repositories, and if a program wasn't in it, you had to either compile it or jump through other hoops.

Then came other formats which made distributing software across Linux distros easier, with some caveats. Two notable ones are Snap and Flatpak.

Snap was made by the guys behind Ubuntu and mint is an offshoot of Ubuntu that made the willful decision to not do snaps by default after a number of fiascos.

My advice would be: try installing software through the normal mint repositories, ideally the non Flatpak version. If it does not exist there or is buggy or whatever, consider the Flatpak. Only failing that should you look into snap IMO.

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[-] olafurp@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

If you have 48GB you don't need a swapfile. To min-max you could lower the "swappiness" so it uses swapfiles way less. It's just bonus memory that lives on the SSD. Swap files and swap partitions behave the same unless you run out of SSD space.

Linux system has better architecture than Windows so your system is safe unless you install a virus (of which there are way fewer).

Where you install programs? Just use the app store or terminal, the location doesn't matter.

The "hardening" is interesting though, you can go really far into security if you want. If things are installed in user-space it can't fuck with your computer on a fundamental level so it's preferred. You don't have to worry about it though unless your installing some niche programs from someone you know nothing about.

[-] illusionist@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago

Most Linux distros are already hardened. You can use "extreme" distros but as long as there'y no need, stick to a "normal" distro first. You can switch whenever you want.

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[-] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 week ago

Thanks for asking this question, it's really amazing and helpful for us old Linux people to see the experience of somebody who's coming over fresh. I think you are asking the right kinds of questions and I wish you the best of luck.

Specifically about Windows Defender, I haven't seen any tool like that on Linux, but I am curious to see what you find out.

[-] IrritableOcelot@beehaw.org 3 points 6 days ago

Theres no equivalent to Windows Defender on Linux, because it's like 14 tools in one, and Linux by nature is a lot more modular. If you want something whcch scans files for malware, the tool of choice would be ClamAV. By default it only scans files which you manually tell it to, but you can set it up to automatically scan any file when it's downloaded. It's a lot less sophisticated than Defender, but there's also just not as much malware for Linux (yet), and if you stick to installing software through the package manager and never giving other files execution permission, you should be fine.

[-] veggay@kbin.earth 2 points 5 days ago

wow I'm amazed you're the first person to suggest this, thank you !

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[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

Do not press the hidden button.

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