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[-] SARGE@startrek.website 124 points 6 months ago

As someone who tries to eat less meat in general because climate change and cows are basically giant grass eating slightly smellier dogs, I cannot take anyone who unironically uses "carnist" and "bloodmouth" seriously from that point on.

The more names you use to describe "person who eats meat" that you think are insulting and derogatory, the more people roll their eyes and move on with their planned meal.

[-] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 49 points 5 months ago

Also when they add extraneous hyperbole to invalidate themselves.

No, there's nothing sweet or savory about rotting meat, but it isn't rotting, now is it?People that eat meat do not eat rotting carcasses (RFK aside) the same way vegans don't eat rotten vegetables.

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[-] baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 6 months ago

if you're very passionate about something it's easy to use strong words, and i think while it's annoying to me it's generally acceptable if used like this. I can't personally develop any strong feelings about vegetarianism or veganism, but I've had my passionate political moments in my life (and still do sometimes) and I guess it's kind of respect worthy, at least when I myself can see the logic of the argument or even agree to an extent.

Used to be I would get pretty frenzied when confronted with what I could fathom about capitalism, so I can empathize.

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 15 points 5 months ago

Yeah I'm basically in the same boat. I call myself a half assed vegetarian - I don't typically buy meat for myself but if I go somewhere and meat's already been ordered I won't make a big fuss. I think meat is bad for the environment and cruel to the animals, and want people to care more about that, but it's an emotional issue that needs to be handled as such.

It is annoying that some people are so emotionally invested in meat that it's a hot button triggering topic, but that's how it is.

Some left wing people will call the USA like "burgerland" or "ameriKKKa" and I'm just like that's not going to win any converts. People who aren't already firmly in your camp are going to stop listening.

[-] django@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 6 months ago

Sounds like the anti-woke sentiment of being more racist in spite, because some doesn't like being called out for their behaviour.

Would you prefer the rational argument, that the meat industry fuels climate change and speeds up the destruction of our planet?

[-] Phineaz@feddit.org 28 points 5 months ago

... they literally raised that point.

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[-] real_squids@sopuli.xyz 9 points 5 months ago

Yea reminds me of people who think it's an epic own to say they'll eat two steaks instead when talking to vegans. Congrats on worsening your health I guess (among other things)

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[-] dumbass@piefed.social 55 points 6 months ago

Then we use the liquid remains of their children to coat them in crumbs.

[-] ms_lane@lemmy.world 36 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

...of Crushed plants, that we infested with LIVING FUNGUS, BURNED and them CRUSHED THEM AGAIN!

[-] greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 5 months ago

I think it's totally natural for humans to eat meat. But also definitely more moral to abstain from eating it.

[-] badcommandorfilename@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago

If the situation were reversed, chickens would eat us without a second thought.

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 12 points 5 months ago

I've seen a rooster eat a chick before, it was horrifying.

[-] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Good people of Cyrodiil. Welcome to the arena...

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[-] MrSmith@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The process of eating meat? Sure.
The way people in the modern world obtain meat? Nothing natural about that.

If I was made to hunt my game, or kill the animal I raised, I'd never eat meat.

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[-] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 6 months ago

I suddenly want a chicken sandwich

[-] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 23 points 5 months ago

I am perfectly fine with the knowledge that my stomach is a graveyard.

[-] nickiwest@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

At most, my stomach is a funeral home.

If you eat meat and it remains permanently in your body, please seek medical attention.

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[-] falseWhite@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago

Really ridiculous how vegans think this will put off any meat eaters from eating meat.

Actually it's having the opposite effect, it just infuriates people and makes them hungry.

I myself am hungry for a chicken now!

[-] canofcam@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

if you are infuriated by somebody pointing out the cruelties of your actions then i think that is a reflection of you, not them.

[-] falseWhite@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Let's see how you like being called names:

You skinny shitmouth, go eat some cabbage grown in cow shit.

[-] canofcam@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

Weird that this didn't affect me or want to change my diet at all.

[-] remon@ani.social 18 points 5 months ago

Congratulations ... you got the point of the first comment.

[-] canofcam@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I think YOU are missing the point of the first comment and MY point.

They said that they are infuriated by people name-calling them, somebody said "see how you like it" and... I wasn't infuriated.

Insane that anti-vegan people (who have generally fallen for right-wing propaganda) are so bandwagony that you are getting upvoted for being so very incorrect.

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[-] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

So what combination of words should vegans be using to convince meateaters to stop consuming meat?

I see a lot of people telling vegans what not to say, but not a lot about what they should be saying to make their case.

What would you find to be a convincing argument?

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 5 months ago

unbiased, true statements. it may not be convincing, but falsehood and hyperbole isn't a good way to convince anyone of anything.

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[-] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

You don't. If you treat being vegan like a religion where you feel the need to convert everyone else then you're in a cult. A normal person would just present their case, make their arguments, and live their life based on their principles... That's it. If someone is convinced that you're correct then they'll adopt your values on their own, and if they don't you just have to accept their choice and move on.

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[-] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 20 points 5 months ago

Dissolve in the acids inside of meee*

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[-] pentastarm@piefed.ca 17 points 6 months ago

Dethklok's next album revealed

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[-] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

“Bloodmouth carnist food?” What an idiot.

[-] nomorebillboards@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

"Vegan" is truly silly.

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