Yeah, calling the only black dude Shacklebolt as well. The more you look the worse it gets.
Even the Irish kid gets worse in the books. Apart from making things explode, his other notable character trait is repeatedly trying to turn various drinks into whiskey.
his other notable character trait is repeatedly trying to turn various drinks into whiskey.
In fucking fairness half of your personal goals as an Irish teenager in the 90s and 2000s related to acquiring alcohol and getting drunk.
Oh goodness, I never thought of that.
Jesus fucking Christ what? there was a character named shacklebolt???
Kingsly Shacklebolt, i believe he was the personal assistant to the prime minister. His most famous quote: "dumbledores got style"
Not the only black character in harry potter btw
Like a lot of the worst stuff in the book, it didn't make it into the movies I think.
Is it true that the centaur from movie 1 had more lines than all the black characters in all 7 books?
And then modern fans get mad at black Snape in the TV show (if that gets to finish. My bets is it will patter out like the fantastic beasts movies)
Fans get mad about black Snape because it would instantly make Harry look like an ultra racist without rewriting half the book.
Cho Chang
Those are at least actual popular Chinese names, as Chinese people mention every time this comes up on Reddit.
The Troubles was so long ago for me that the character quirk went over my head.
Allow me to hit you with my cane. The Manchester blast was fucking loud.
She's also derivative as hell, but children's lit doesn't get real deep reviews, and we were all too busy defending it from Christianity to really notice.
The erasure of Worst Witch is a crime.
starring Tim Curry? how have i missed this
It's overlooked because he doesn't play a villain, Curry is at his best as the bad guy
What's racist about it? I'm not racist enough to understand
To say the UK and Ireland have had explosive interactions in the past would be a bit of an understatement. There were spates of car bombings, shootings, and other forms of violence all along the border of Northern Ireland (Due to both sides believing Northern Island should be part of their nation).
Addendum: This was not a purely binary conflict. There were also those in Northern Ireland who did not align with either aggressor.
Rowling probably takes a more pro-UK stance, and therefore is comparing the Irish people to the IRA (Irish Republican Army) bombers.
The conflict(s) were part of a period known as The Troubles (Wiki page linked)
Disclaimer - I'm an American outsider with an interest in learning about history, so I may not have the most accurate summary of events from either side of the story. The Wikipedia article should summarize incidents much better.
This is the shit they should teach us in school. The American education system sucks. Almost everything i've learned about world history I learned myself.
My father is a history teacher - and he inspired me to always keep learning about every part of the world that I can (and also about unique hobbies and technical fields, since I aspire to be an engineer).
I have to thank him again for all the amazing books he shared with me (and techniques for analyzing sources on the internet).
To add to that you also have the people living there rather split on which country they would like to be part of
I feel this characterises it as more of a border dispute between nation states. I'm not going to get into the rights and wrongs of any side in this (because it'll take far too long and frankly I doubt I could be completely objective). I'm commenting only to say it wasn't that.
So your not American? Never drank a certain Irish named drop shot drink?
I'm familiar with the shot and the years of conflict. But I didn't realize that's what it was referring to initially. Sometimes it takes some help for people to piece it together.
I'm not so sure, I think the Irish would be proud of their history of making things explode.
Guessing it’s due to the IRA bombings?
Correct.
Only some of them, it's very divisive I think. Can an Irish lad confirm?
Its divisive in Ireland.
Opinions on everything from that time vary widely.
Im born and reared in Cork btw.
They see me (rowling), they hating. Trying to catch me writing dirty...
I find it amazing that she can be so fucking tone deaf.
Like, wasn't half of your entire best-selling series about equality/prejudice, you daft fucking terf? Pretty sure there was a whole lot about the unfair treatment of house elves and muggle-borns. Pretty sure that first antagonist we meet (aside from the Dudley's) is a poster-child for Hitler Youth.
Pretty sure there was a whole lot about the unfair treatment of house elves
no, the house elves loved being slaves and hermione was being hysterical for fighting for their rights.
Which is also amazing because she is simultaneously a target herself for being muggle-born. To the point that she had to erase herself from her own parents memories.
Meanwhile in the real world, bigotry is still common among oppressed groups. See also: racism in LGBT communities, self-hating Jews, Catholics/Protestants, close-the-border 1st and 2nd gen immigrants etc.
There's no way you people would think she's racist if she wasn't transphobic.
She was very accepting of Hermione being cast as a black girl. Seamus was just used as comedic relief in the movies, much moreso than in the books, with his magical mistakes causing explosions being primarily when he was a kid. He was loyal and high achieving character.
Meanwhile, the blonde character who uses the offense slur "mudblood" is the childhood villain for most the books. Yet she is racist for this somehow too, I imagine.
she had a reputation for racial stereotyping even before she went mask-off as a terf, decades back. like naming the one Asian character Cho Chang (sounds like ching chang chong; both names are from different Asian countries), naming the one Black character Kingsley Shacklebolt (King from MLK, shackle from slavery), naming the Jewish character Anthony Goldstein, naming an Irish character Seamus Finnegan...
...it's not that she was necessarily super racist, she just used very stereotypical/over the top names for her characters. so I don't hate her for being racist, I hate her for being transphobic.
About Cho Chang though, she actually looked up the meanings and choose Cho because it meant butterfly. I've never really associated that character's name as a play on the racist stereotype, being Oriental myself. I've just associated it with general western ignorance.
As abhorrent as she is now, she was a queer ally but just didn't understand trans, like many people around her age and demographic. She reacted to the massive backlash and drove herself into the weeds.
She's horrible now and deserves all the hate but know that she's a result of our own making. I think if any new people express a misunderstanding, it's far better to make a bridge to correct that misunderstanding. It takes a lot on our part, trans and trans allies, but I'd rather make a friend out of a fool than a foolish enemy.
There’s no way you people would think she’s racist
That's mainly because she was hyped up for so long and she didn't go all out, but it wasn't long until someone noticed the Gringot's bankers were Jewish Stereotypes and some of the names were a bit iffy. But I think it really was a "Little Britain" situation where we didn't get it until the second read through.
Also, in her books for adults, she's gone mask off, especially against Mixed Race people.
YOU'RE DOING THAT THING THAT REDDITORS DO
I know this is just a meme but isn't this scene of Seamus Finnigan a movie only scene?
There are plenty of reasons to shit on JK Rowling, but shouldn't this one be on the director? (Assuming it was done on purpose.)
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