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submitted 1 year ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

California Gov. Gavin Newsom has signed a law requiring K-12 schools to provide gender-neutral bathrooms by July 2026.

The new law, Senate Bill 760, was among a series of laws signed by Newsom Saturday to expand protections for the state’s LGBTQ community.

“California is proud to have some of the most robust laws in the nation when it comes to protecting and supporting our LGBTQ+ community,” Newsom said in a statement.

Under the law, “each school district, county office of education, and charter school” would be required to have at least one gender-neutral bathroom on campus on or before July 1, 2026. The bathroom must be available for use during school hours and during school functions when students are present, the law states.

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[-] Octavio@lemmy.world 118 points 1 year ago

I went to a gender neutral restroom in California a couple months ago. Each toilet was in its own little private room, and there was a common area of sinks for hand washing. My only thought was that all public restrooms should be like that. Even apart from the equal access issue for LGBTQ+ people, why make one gender stand in line when there are unused facilities right next door.

[-] Wahots@pawb.social 60 points 1 year ago

Honestly, I just like the privacy anyways. Who wants to make eye contact with someone through the 1in gap in the stall doors?

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[-] Player2@sopuli.xyz 35 points 1 year ago

Yeah it’s literally just better for everyone

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago

Except for those who desperately want to hurt people they don't like.

[-] TheMinions@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Recently went to Paris, and most toilets were like this. It was fantastic.

[-] uis@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

My only thought was that all public restrooms should be like that.

Agrreed. Sadly, "arrow doesn't turn".

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[-] SuddenlyBlowGreen@lemmy.world 106 points 1 year ago

Just wait until conservatives find out there are already gender neutral bathrooms in their own homes!

Oh the horror!

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[-] populustree 45 points 1 year ago

i never really got the whole separated toilets thing anyway, it's a toilet, do your thing and skedaddle

[-] Uranium3006@kbin.social 50 points 1 year ago

we need to redesign toilet stalls to be more private anyways

[-] Kage520@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

My biggest reason for wanting separate bathrooms is the propensity for women to squat and spray the seat. I know guys can make a mess too but usually the women's restroom is dirtier than men's. Also women's restroom is more likely to have a line.

But I'm sure building-wise it would be easier to just make one big bathroom so it should probably be that way, long as it's big enough.

[-] SamboT@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How do you have experience with both men and women's restrooms?

Edit: ow the downvotes

[-] wifepimp4smokes@reddthat.com 21 points 1 year ago

Not OP but the one who cleans sees all.

[-] monk@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

I envy a life where you've never had to clean a bathroom.

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[-] LegionEris@feddit.nl 11 points 1 year ago

Idk about them, but my transition experience was the opposite. Neither is free of animals who were never taught how to operate their bodies in a public space, but my men's room experiences were gross way more often than my women's room experiences are. And now that I share a single toilet bathroom with men at work again, piss in weird places all the time. I understand that there are some places where the women's room is routinely worse, but the average has been the opposite in my experience.

[-] Saneless@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I used to work in a restaurant so I've had to clean both.

Women are utterly disgusting. Men sometimes pee on the seats but women shit on the walls.

I was stunned the first time. After having it happen once a week or so, you really start to wonder WTF is wrong with women

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[-] Saneless@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

You mean you don't have signs up in your house for your guests to direct them to entirely different bathrooms?

[-] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago

Disabled, my favorite gender

[-] bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 year ago

Disabled toilets are already gender neutral, I guess they'll just stick another sign on the door?

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

only if they're single-occupant bathrooms. which. for schools... are usually not going to be the case. personally, that should be the solution. just rip out both bathrooms, install single occupant cells. nobody cares what you are. the only sign needed is an 'occupied'/'vacant' on the latch.

(edit: well, you'd still have to have a placard with braille on it so blind people can know what kind of room it is.)

[-] colforge@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago

Most of the disabled stalls I’ve encountered (at least in the US) are within the gendered bathrooms. So even if the stall is nominally gender neutral one first has to enter the men’s room or women’s room.

Ah, in the UK the disabled ones are separate and you need a key

[-] darq@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

So much of the online bathroom discussion makes more sense when one realises that US public restroom designs are insane.

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[-] colforge@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah here in the good ol (hahahaha) USA most establishments have a separate “restroom” for men and women which consist of a row of sinks for washing up and a number of stalls for toilets (and urinals in men’s rooms of course).

Sometimes the urinals are just in a row on the wall with no dividers between. But there’s usually one or two disabled stalls as well, although they’re not locked in any way.

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[-] iHUNTcriminals@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago

It really was just a regular bathroom all along.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

The gender neutral bathroom was inside here the whole time.

[-] oxjox@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

Under the law, “each school district, county office of education, and charter school” would be required to have at least one gender-neutral bathroom on campus on or before July 1, 2026.

Whut?? Why not just make them all human restrooms? How does it takes two+ years to switch some signage and inform people to use whatever door they wish?

I've been living in a city with "gender-neutral" restrooms for so long that I forget what it used to be like. Well, aside from sports and entertainment complexes.

[-] mxcory 12 points 1 year ago

They may want to allow time for remodeling instead of just new signage. Maybe better stalls for actual privacy. I hate the typical stall I see in the US.

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[-] zanzo@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

it’s heartening that the governor has been working so hard to solve the state’s crippling housing crisis…oh wait…what?

[-] Rayspekt@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

So there will stil be regular male/female toilets? In the end I'm kinda whatever about this as long as it's not used as an excuse to remove urinals.

[-] Old_Dude@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Yes, every gender neutral bathroom I've seen here at elementary schools and college campuses have single occupancy gender neutral bathroom/s next to the men's and women's bathrooms.

[-] doubletwist@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I haven't read the text of the law, but unless it explicitly says otherwise, I suspect it will be up to the schools/districts. If they have the money and room to build separate non-gendered bathrooms, then some of them will do so. But I suspect that most will simply convert existing bathrooms and not have gender specific bathrooms at all.

[-] sturmblast@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

if all the bathrooms are neutral there's no need to have " regular bathrooms"

[-] quindraco@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

stares in confusion But urinals are the absolute worst. Benefits: cost less money and less space. Drawbacks: lack of privacy and inevitable splashback. Why would you want them?

[-] LwL@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

So I don't have to sit on a public toilet of questionable cleanliness. A small bit of splashback from my own piss is preferable.

The privacy just has never been a concern bc no one is trying to look at other people's dicks while pissing.

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[-] Rayspekt@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Urinals are more convenient when you just need to take a quick piss. I don't get why another person next to you is a problem. Also just don't piss dead center into the thing considering splashback. Do I really have to explain pissing now?

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[-] fmwp1lrU@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Can we adopt the It's always sunny sign instead?

"Animal Shit House"

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[-] steltek@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

Important consequence of this in the context of elementary schools: most little boys don't lift up the seat when they pee and their aim is atrocious. At my kids' school, the gender neutral bathrooms are the toilets of last resort.

[-] TacoThrash3r@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

Can we just have a pee bathroom and a poop bathroom?

[-] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago

Ah yes the four genders: woman, man, oh my god what the fuck happened to you, now youre disabled

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