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[-] magmaus3@szmer.info 143 points 1 year ago

why are kill and violence censored?

[-] Dasnap@lemmy.world 161 points 1 year ago

My mum might see it and take away my Xbox.

[-] magmaus3@szmer.info 50 points 1 year ago

understandable, have a nice day 🫂

[-] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago

What the frick?!

[-] Hazrod@jlai.lu 72 points 1 year ago

It's a thing that has started to appear because of mainstream social media deleting post with "bad vibes". Kill, suicide, and such vocabulary are actively repressed to "ensure happiness"

[-] squiblet@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That makes sense. Avoiding censorship is reasonable. I was thinking some people did it to avoid triggers, as if seeing 'r*pe' or 'k!ll' isn't the exact same thing as seeing the words spelled out.

[-] Kalkaline@leminal.space 20 points 1 year ago

It's more of a demonetization thing. I see it all over the YouTube videos of homicide investigation police interviews, which makes no sense.

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[-] Hazrod@jlai.lu 7 points 1 year ago

Yeah that would be a pretty poor trigger warning.

[-] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago

Yeah they don't like when people talk about mental health issues. Go kill yourself in private and stop getting your bad vibes all over my nice, clean website.

[-] Qwaffle_waffle@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

Oh shit, it's the thought police!

[-] moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 1 year ago

bruh was planning on posting this on roblox or some shit

[-] seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 year ago

I don't know, but watch out for anybody wearing a red asterisk.

[-] obinice@lemmy.world 122 points 1 year ago

Good thing you censored those naughty words, everyone on the internet are children and it's not appropriate for them to know such no-no words.

I'm glad no child knows the word "kill". Phew.

My business website has “kill” in it, and the business bankers at my bank can not view it on their work computers. Its blocked because of that string in the URL.

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[-] Dadifer@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago
[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 70 points 1 year ago

Solved simply by treating tolerance as a social contract instead of an absolute moral doctrine.

Break the contract, lose the protections.

[-] theneverfox@pawb.social 10 points 1 year ago

Well put.

It really is just as simple as "don't do mental gymnastics", there's only a paradox here if you make one

[-] ShaunaTheDead@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Human rights should always be universal and immutable, we can't go around deciding who does or doesn't have basic human rights. Antifa has to be the better people because unfortunately we have to be the adults in the room and show the children what it means to be a decent human being. But, having your human rights respected doesn't mean that you're immune to the consequences of your actions like getting the shit kicked out of you for being a Nazi prick, or getting locked up in prison for the rest of your life.

[-] Lightor@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

We do decide who doesn't get all their rights all the time. It's called jail.

[-] ShaunaTheDead@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Those aren't Human Rights, those are Freedoms. Freedoms are often included as part of Human Rights decrees but they are usually merely subsections of Human Rights decrees and can be restricted by governments if there is just cause, but never or rarely removed outright.

The Universal Declaration of Human Rights identifies a few key things like the Right to Life including protections from slavery and torture. The Freedom of Movement is one that can be restricted if you prove dangerous. The big one that most people are referring to when they mention Human Rights is all of the "constitutional liberties", here's a quote from the article I linked about that:

the so-called "constitutional liberties" and spiritual, public, and political freedoms, such as freedom of thought, opinion, expression, religion and conscience, word, peaceful association of the individual, and receiving and imparting information and ideas through any media.

The above linked declaration hasn't been ratified in every country, and it's sort of a basic boilerplate that countries may use to form their own Human Rights decrees. But again the big one that is quite universal is the constitutional liberties which are basically the freedom from discrimination and oppression.

My point being, restricting a person's Freedoms isn't necessarily the same as violating their Human Rights.

[-] Lightor@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I mean, there is the right to bear arms, people in jail and felons don't have that right. Felons can't even vote.

[-] ShaunaTheDead@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Human rights are bigger than just the United States. What happens there is a pretty atrocious infringement on the rights of inmates. It's not surprising though, considering the US prison system is essentially just modern slavery and that there are corporations who have a vested interest in dehumanizing the inmates so they can exploit them as slave labor without anyone objecting.

[-] Lightor@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Article 20 Right of Peaceful Assembly and Association

People in jail can't do that.

Article 13 Right to Free Movement in and out of the Country

They can't do that either.

Article 14 Right to Asylum in other Countries from Persecution

I mean, how do you define persecution? Because we help find people sometimes, which seems like the opposite.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

No, there are real adults with these opinions. Real adults that perform real actions based on their opinions. If they can't stop themselves from being uncivilized animals based on bigotry and discrimination then we need to protect the rest of our society that is peaceful and tolerant. The only way to be decent to absolute villains is to relinquish them of their ability to take action. Otherwise everything we've built since Babylon comes tumbling down.

[-] kameecoding@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

tfw they are ushering you into a gas chamber but you don't fight back because you don't want to infringe on their human rights.

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We have to be tolerant to the intolerant, otherwise, who defines what tolerance is?

[-] ShaunaTheDead@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago

You really should read the article that Dadifer@lemmy.world posted (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance#:~:text=The%20paradox%20of%20tolerance%20states,or%20destroyed%20by%20the%20intolerant.)

The TL;DR is that in order to create a tolerant society, ironically, the only thing that cannot be tolerated is intolerance. The paradox comes from the idea that if intolerance is tolerated and allowed to gain any kind of a foothold then the society is no longer tolerant, but if we stamp it out and nip it at the bud then that's also intolerant.

However, the paradox obviously has one preferred outcome which is that intolerance of intolerance is the only way to maintain a (mostly) tolerant society. The other option is letting the Nazis win.

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[-] ReCursing@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

Is this... is this satire?

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[-] oatscoop@midwest.social 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

~~People don't have a problem with tankies because they want to use violence against fascists. Violence against fascists is fine.~~

~~People dislike tankies because they're reactionary assholes. They dislike them for cheer-leading unjustifiable abuses and failures because they believe we're in some zero-sum game that excuses it. Because they're extremists, oppressive authoritarians, and want to use violence against all of their ideological enemies, including the "wrong kinds" of communist.~~

~~The good things they believe in and do aren't what people have an issue with: it's the inexcusably bad parts of their ideology people don't like, and the fact they're obnoxious about it.~~

Edit: I stand by what I said, but apparently its easier to recognize flags when you expand the image ... and my rant had nothing to do with the post.

[-] Heavybell@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Are you saying Antifa are tankies?

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[-] ogoflowgo@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Someone shoot the guy on the right.

[-] Disgusted_Tadpole@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

And again, that’s enough internet for today. I’ll see you tomorrow, with hopefully better content

[-] Rinox@feddit.it 6 points 1 year ago

Yes, very black and white.

Now, is Russia the first or the second guy? China? NK?

[-] kameecoding@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Both China and Russia are commiting textbook definitions of Genocide, yeah wonder which they are...

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